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 out of 5 stars2 out of 5 stars2 out of 5 stars3 out of 5 starsThe King Is Dead   September 20, 2012
Written by beloy51
When I first saw The King in Chicago in 1969 my mind was so blown away I wanted to throw my guitar in the river. I remember Lake’s poke-a-dot shirt, Bob sitting On A Stool. Ian playing two Sax’s at one time and Mike playing his Drum solo standing outside of his Drum Kit. That night at the Kinetic changed my life.Every new Lp was a Special treat for Me.Sometimes it took years to unlock the mysteries within each Lp. It was always worth the wait. KC was my very own dirty little secret. I have seen the band many times since that first time. Box and Mel,Wow! John and David, Very cool. The 80’s with Ade and Bill ,Very,Very nice.The Double Trio, My fave. Park West, the Chicago Theater with JP Jones and no Tony Or Bill ,Not Bad. Now KC is like The Moody Blues or Kiss or The Rolling Stones. Playing music of the past was not what I want from The King. I want new stuff that will make sence to me five or ten years from now like it always did. This greatest hit stuff makes me sad. I guess The King is dead. And part of me with it.


 out of 5 stars1 out of 5 stars2 out of 5 starsThis is rubbish!   June 21, 2012
Written by melvinc7


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsthis is not closing time?   May 3, 2012
Written by bruno84
  this concert is unstained pleasure; this easily could be a CD that can matche others.
 all versions are awsome. PLEASE MAKE A CD;
Bruno.


 out of 5 stars4 out of 5 stars4 out of 5 stars4 out of 5 stars4 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 starsWhere R We?   December 26, 2011
Written by harmonicscarf
    i waited quite a while to get this one........and i have such immense and unwieldy feelings about it. on one hand, the ’sickness’ of the percussion is devastatingly grandiose and stellar. on the other hand that same mastery puts everything into a weird light, almost like a drum clinic.  Nearly all of the the guitar ’solos’ or even moments when things ’gell’ are missing.I do truly ’dig’ the frame by frame, with it’s permutations. and there the percussion is most well established. 
     I should here point out that "I" fully understand that King Crimson does not owe me anything whatsoever.  I am not paying taxes to the band in any way. I choose to injest what selections I may, but I will continue to indulge in this ’review’.
      a perfect example of the dynamics of this concert is illustrated in "Level Five", one of my personal favorites.  Everything is grand even through the awesome permutation on the "busy section". This is glorious by the way, I absolutely lose myself in it.  I even slightly attempt to not identify with it’s majesty,......but....i won’t spend much time on the something missing from the usually sweeping grandeur on Fripp’s lead subsequent to that aformentioned flourish....it’s the following section that is so curious. when the normal 7 time beat during Belew’s solo is kinda slaughtered by the drum section.  To me, this is a time to play with simplicity and brutality while the guitar solo screams.  But what happens is so chaotic, and perhaps even improper, .....I am compelled to raise the point.......but should I write a personal letter to Gavin?  no, that’s not even close to being an option of any reasonable consideration....ahhh, well, I do hate to have any negativity in this, but continuing shall proceed as it will........the ’swingin’ talking drum? there are two hands for most people. for me, one of my mind hands is totally groovin’ to it, but then there’s something obligatory and forced about it. Is it the thing to play? would the "sailor’s tale" have been a worst choice?  I have to wonder what are the criteria for set lists.  This was one of the only times that i’ve ever felt that the Crim was playing greatest hits.  Is that due to the ’retirement’ of Trey Gunn?  Was Mr. Harrison’s inclusion a slight remedy to that situation? to provide an overwhelming display of mastery in exchange for hot burning new material?  In comparison, the Japan DVD from 2003 is a better view of the "sphinx’s tits", there is more mystery maybe (alliteration boom!) and I guess I’ll just say :so what.........it is not my intention to be a horrible stick in the mud. quite frankly, I’ve enjoyed this release immensely, i just have feelings about it that i have now found urgent enough to share on this computer interface dashboard.  the drum duos are "sick" indeed. clinical bitchin’-ness for the rhythmically acute. or something.  This I will make one more point.......about LTIA II........we’ve heard it a lot.....and frankly, one of my favorite versions of this is the album version.  Who can’t be moved by the violin solo section? with the freakish drum clatter, maybe the ultimate demonstration of dual percussion action. .... so, I guess i’m not experienced enough to know how a band can keep that magic alive after so many playings.  The ideas are phenomenal in this track but it just seems to be less "fundamental" to today’s world.....fuck, what am i saying, I just listened to and relished the sensation of Haydn’s symph 92 fourth movement., is that not relevant today?........there are many contradictions. .... but just get this recording for whatever reason. buy it today, it’s stellar, yeah!  I regret that i’ve never had a hot date with the Crim beast, so maybe i’m just jealous that i wasn’t "there"........but it’d be presumptuous to claim that i’m even here............merry christmas. may you find the higher realms.


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsOH LORD   April 30, 2011
Written by melvinc7
This is terrible.Gavin ,d pat are jive drummers getting over.No black drummers?Miles davis used white musicians.wake up Mr.Fripp."


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 stars   April 11, 2011
Written by chrisklenox

This is the first King Crimson performance I have been able to attend and what a fantastic performance it was! I was able to sit very close to the stage, maybe about four or five paces from Mr. Belew. Needless to say, when this concert was selected for release I was extatic! The recording does not disappoint. Sure, it sounds slightly sterile since it is a soundboard recording, but to let that get in the way of listening would be a huge loss. Maybe I am a bit biased since I was able to hear this in person, but this is firmly in my top 5 King Crimson concerts of all time. A particular favorite of mine is "One Time." Fripp’s solo on this song is as beautiful as anything he has ever played.  I would recommend this one especially if you are a big fan of Tony Levin. The whole band was on and together but Tony’s playing stands out in a big way. This one really is a must hear performance and a great representation of this unique, and unfortunately, short lived line up.

Thank you King Crimson for playing this music and thank you for caring about your audience and making your live recordings available in such a nice way. I wish all musicians had a site like this one with such a great selection.


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsBELEW   August 25, 2010
Written by 10yearslovekingcrimson
sing a small bad , have a problem?


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 stars   July 6, 2010
Written by melvinbcollins
Can’t stand the drums mr.harrison needs lessons I cannot listen to this recording the drums are pretty bad get brufrod back quick or hire some one who can play like my self best regards melvin b collins


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsThe Mighty Crim isn't dead!   May 16, 2010
Written by Slipstream
If it weren’t for the odd mix I’d give this show a six-star rating, but I felt that it had to be reduced to a "mere" five...

Let’s face it, King Crimson’s flame delayed to begin to catch that night, however, when it did, the boys simply nailed the setlist with intense fury and power, problably to recover the lost time. Gavin Harrison proved to be a fine addition to the band, specially because his playing matches Pat’s and yet, it’s different, complementing the sound and leaving more room for Mastelotto to use triggers and samples.
Levin isn’t Gunn, and for anyone who’s expecting Gunn’s parts being exactly the same with Levin, disappointment is the word. Tony embraces Trey’s parts but, instead of trying to reproduce them, he gives ’em his own arrangement and interpretation.
Robert and Adrian are somewhat low and seemingly absent on some points, yet, that doesn’t mean you won’t hear them or their soloing. The balance is very good and, instead of being claustrophobic and only focusing on guitar, you get to hear every nuance of every member equally clear.

For me, high points include the extended "Sleepless", the reinvigorated "Larks’ Tongues In Aspic - Part II", the "Red" with a Chapman Stick, the insaner-than-normal "Indiscpline" and the soundscape in the end of "Coda: Marine 475"...

Some reviewers complained about the clear coldness of the band that night. Welcome to the Soundboard World! Soundboard recordings are like this, you could record even a King Crimson 1973 show or a System Of A Down 2001 gig and it would still sound weak. The fault is of the soundboard and not of the band...

Well, probably, the previous shows have a bigger sense of uncertainty and the latter shows are best performed, but this one balances both, it has some uncertainties (specially during "The ConstruKction Of Light") and is finelly played, also, it is forceful and strong. So, why complain about the other 2008 shows not being available while you can delight yourself with this one?

Buy it! It’s a good one!


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsWhish I could have been there   October 5, 2009
Written by tomten
hearing this recording for the first time let me feel a deep running regret that I read only a few days before that Robert Fripp with almost absolute certainty ruled out any european concerts of King Crimson in the future - it is amazing how the atmosphere tightens over the duration of the show, how fresh classic material can be performed.

I really wish I could have been there - it’s only a barely working remedy that I will be able to see Robert Fripp perform as special guest to Porcupine Tree next week - but it helps a little.


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsSurprisingly rich and rewarding   July 7, 2009
Written by kevred
I say "surprisingly" not because I expect these fellows to underachieve, but because I’ve seen track listings very similar to this for many years now. So, with some of the other mixed reviews in mind, I felt a little trepidation downloading this. Could they breathe new life into these tunes?

But I had nothing to worry about. Just when I thought I’d heard "Red" performed as many ways as it was going to be, here comes this monstrous new version that adds new layers of roar and lots of clever twists, largely courtesy of Mr. Levin. He shines from end to end of this recording, restlessly pushing and pulling and generally wringing these tunes dry (and standing out very well in the mix).

Not being a particular fan of Porcupine Tree, I was also a little skeptical of the two-drummer lineup--often the 90s double trio felt less interesting to me from a drum standpoint than either Bruford or Mastelotto on their own. But while a handful of tracks here seem conservative in the drums, most are charged with a genuinely exciting new energy due to the tight racket these two make. "Level Five" comes to mind, and the post-Levin material here, which never grabbed me as viscerally as earlier work, here charges out with a renewed drive and Levin’s inimitable groove adding new muscle to the delightfully ornate twin guitar lines.

I enjoy the (very) occasional rough edge or odd twist in the recording--there’s a very "alive" energy that made this very enjoyable for me to listen to. It doesn’t sound fussy or sterile, rather it sounds vibrant and fully in-the-moment, almost like an updated version of "Absent Lovers".

Great stuff, thank you. Having finally come to this stage of the group very late, I’d love to hear more of this tour.


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsSimply Excellent!   July 4, 2009
Written by johnburr54
I just heard this one today--a couple of times and it blew my mind away nicely! Just really great stuff!


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsThe Return Of The 40 Years Beast   March 28, 2009
Written by Slipstream
The beast is finally back, and is as powerful and brutal as ever. With the addition of Porcupine Tree’s Gavin Harrison to the band, and the return of Tony Levin, the band’s in full flight again, and also, breaking new ground once more. There are new arrangements for Level Five, Sleepless and Neurotica, but also, the good and old arrangements for The Talking Drum, Larks’ II, Red and Vrooom. The tour-de-force begins with the Fripp’s "calm before the storm" sound sculpture, which is quickly joined by Mastelotto and Harrison on a burning drum duet, leading to The ConstruKction Of Light, where Levin does Gunn’s job very well on the Chapman Stick and Belew’s voice is sounding better than ever. For the pleasure of the old-time fans, Red is alive, well and ready for the war, and, almost like a paradox, the band offers a reflective Frame By Frame as a gift for this supportive audience. Fortunately, there’s not even time for the people to find a new comfortable position at their chair, and they receive a punch in the nose by a fearsome Neurotica, followed by Three Of A Perfect Pair. In a glorious return after two tours absent, The Talking Drum and Larks’ Tongues In Aspic - Part II are as ferocious as they used to be (if not more). Other highlights include Vrooom and a pseudo-end of the show given by it’s Coda, also, there’s a second drum duet, Thela, Elephant Talk and an unusual and demented version of Indiscipline concluding the set. It was another hot night at Park West.


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsSuper show   February 16, 2009
Written by mabonadies
Finally, I have gotten around to downloading this show and it was well worth the wait!  Even though I attended the August 8th concert, this show from the night before has the same feeling.  Although the recording is not perfect (the drums sometimes jump out from nowhere), it’s a great representation of the experience.  Thank you for making this available!

On another note, this was my first time using Bitorrent & FLAC and I had no problems with the download or the file conversion.  For those of you who are apprehensive about downloading the software, fear not, the links that DGM have supplied for you are good.  -Marc


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsChicago 08   February 2, 2009
Written by ludwigjr

Can it be the same Gavin Harrison that loitered within the pages of Rhythm back in the day? Some of those exercises still hurt, man. Anyway nice one and it’s  great to have Ade and the boys belting it out in my flat once again. Personnel changes or no, the Crim superghost is alive and well. I only wish I could have been there.

The best to you all.

J

 


 out of 5 stars2 out of 5 stars2 out of 5 stars3 out of 5 starspoor KC ..........   February 1, 2009
Written by roselina
i’ve downloaded this ecellent soundin’ concert a few days ago - -awesome sound , but very poor music ; KC as a shadow of its own.....>> no more ideas and a terrible lead vocal singer ...download the concerts of the 7 ties ,they are really great ans inspired .
wolfgang


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsLove the audio!!!   January 7, 2009
Written by KennyKij
I am really impressed with the recording and mix of this show. The low end is thundering as it was in New York when my wife and I seen them (August 16, 2008 please put that show up)
If you have high quality speakers this recording will give them a work-out..especially the bass. Nice detail, imaging, sound stage and atmosphere in this recording. Plus an enthusiastic crowd in the background.
As for the show, it starts off a little slow/off musically. The harmonies are off a bit.. maybe Tony had a cold..?  Sooo...by the time Neurotica arrives.... holy smokes!!!!!
 
Overall a must have for the 40th anniversary tour. A definite 5 stars in spite of the slow beginning and 10 stars for audio!!


 out of 5 stars3 out of 5 stars3 out of 5 stars3 out of 5 stars4 out of 5 starsWhy wasn't I at this show?   January 1, 2009
Written by Aryadeva
As someone who has lived in Chicago since 2003 (when I lived in Copenhagen and very sadly missed the Circusbygningen show [argh!]), I wonder why I was not at this show? I am a registered user of the DGM site, but there doesn’t seem to be any way to get advance notice of concert dates without checking the site every few months. Given that I have a busy family/personal life and an active career, this is not possible. I’d appreciate it if a) there were an email list that would announce future concert dates, and b) KC would come back through Chicago soon!!!


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsThe most FUN KC ever?   December 12, 2008
Written by fabio_riccardi
Well KC is always great, but I was really curious to hear what Gavin Harrison would contribute to this line-up. Well the drumming is nothing short of fantastic. It is obvious that Gavin and Pat are having fun, they’re playing! The rest of the band seems to pick up on the fun and It is great to hear older songs played in such an enlightened mood.

A great record to listen while driving!

- Fabio


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsLevel 5 stars   December 1, 2008
Written by sapindo

The substantial Crimson with something new. Great.


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 stars8/7/08 show   November 18, 2008
Written by BRENTLEATHERMAN

I was at this show and thought it to be an excellent performance.While Bruford is my favorite drummer I found the interplay of these 2 drummers to mesh better than the 2 drummer sets of the past.

As to the music selection I had hoped for more new material.My deepest wish is for them to move into new dynamics by adding new players of different instruments such as keyboards or wind and some lyical imput though I’m sure Belew still has a lot to say.KC has been all about change & development for its band members and for us as its audience.


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsun buon lavoro    November 18, 2008
Written by pinkmilk
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 out of 5 stars2 out of 5 stars2 out of 5 stars3 out of 5 starshoping somewhat new...   November 14, 2008
Written by eorozco
Being a Crim fan over the years, even attending some live shows from the double trio, I had great expectations from this "new" line-up live performance .... however, I have to say that I still don´t like it .... is the first "reappearance" from the Crim that doesn´t bring anything NEW to me... just renditions to already well known tracks, but, to be honest I prefer the original (or past live) tracks of the songs .... there’s something missing (or different??) specially on the rhythm section .... just hear Indiscipline... 2 stars because this is not what I’m used to hear from the great Crim all over the years... 


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsEssential   October 30, 2008
Written by JohnSmallwood

This a superb recording of interesting new renderings from the Crimson portfolio.  Essential for any serious Crimson collection, and highly recommended.

Many thanks to the team for making it available for download.

John Smallwood


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsClassic KC!   October 30, 2008
Written by budburner

       This was one great concert! I sat in the stage right balcony and did not move from my seat once other than to stand and applaud for fear of breaking the magic. It is awesome of KC to provide downloadable audio from the concert and, even better, it’s from the night I was there! I also appreciate the pictures of the concert posted here at DGM; audio and pictures that will always remind me of a totally enjoyable evening with KC. The dual percussion lineup was incredible! Please, come back again soon and let’s do it again!!!


 out of 5 stars4 out of 5 stars4 out of 5 stars4 out of 5 stars4 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 starsPhilosophy VS MarketPlace   October 26, 2008
Written by castillogg

Well, I’m had 30 years to be a hard bone KCrimson fan, in fact time, I’m think what Mr. Fripp thought more in the merchandises of your band neither the philosopher rules that made the great Name of King Crimson. Any move that Mr. Fripp did, will be appreciating by whole-world-fans. I’m just to be my opinion in straight on the way that KC music is, SOLID & WELL SHAPING. Just remember The Creativity is not good partner of the repetition. OK. Long Live To the KING.

Atten Gerardo Castillo


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsThis is a drug!   September 22, 2008
Written by whippetx

I have listened to this many times and it gets better. I was at the Phila. show and was impressed with the play list but the drums covered out Tony. This recording captured every one very well I think.
 
Now all I want for Christmas is a new songs with this line up!


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsNot up to par   September 10, 2008
Written by electivemute
I love almost every recording of King Crimson and I have been a good customer on here for sure. But I have to tell you that this is not the best king crimson I’ve heard. The Drums are a bit "fussy" the vocals waver. There’s a few clams but nothing that takes away from the overall performance. It’s just the over all feel of the performance, it’s as if The Crimson King is walking with one shoe untied. I saw them at park west the following night. It was a good show, but showcased the drums and drowned out fripp and levin.


   August 7, 2008
Written by Robert Fripp

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A professional photo session after soundcheck! What! There was no mention of this beforehand. With flashes!

The SoundSculpture for walk-in: a threnody.

The performance: the Beast Is Back! During the first long climbing section in Larks II I felt the presence of King Crimson entering into the music, and almost wept.

Overall, a strong performance to a generous audience.

Discussion in the car on the way back with Artist Advocate Andy & Adrian re: dealing with photography.  A comment from Ade: if you want a career in this business, you can’t stop photography. And, accordingly, my own career in this business finished on December 12th. 2004 in Santiago, Chile with G3. This day is recorded in the Diary. But, musical profession & endeavour is not a business for me; although the musician must be businesslike (to quote Keith Tippett).

I acknowledged my weakness in the area; and tonight would not have been possible with photography, I suggested; with photography / viddying, I couldn’t have been there. In this, I accept performance conventions have moved close to the audience behave in any way that they want – because they have the right! If this is so, then the performer has the choice – yes or no. And mine is no. A decision recognised, heartbreakingly, on December 12th. 2004.

I enjoyed performing this evening very much. In a conventional touring scenario, with conventional professional promoters & agents etc., they would have paid lip service to no photography & then not bother (as at the Massey Hall in Toronto: denied to my face, acknowledged to others). Which is a large part of why I no longer do this, in a conventional touring situation.




 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsA nice welcome back   September 7, 2008
Written by acampo
 ’greatest hits’ tour. Can’t wait for new material and improvs from this version of the bands.
Great sound as usual. No real barn-burner renditions to these old ears. Hoping they tour the NW this fall.


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsMy First Evening With KC   September 3, 2008
Written by Geogaddi
I’m absolutely delighted that I was fortunate enough to see King Crimson for the first time on the 6th and 7th at Park West. I just discovered KC about a year and a half ago (I’m 19 now), and I was truly terrified that I’d never have a chance to see them perform.

The music was tremendous. Both nights were absolutely riveting; my mind was drenched in musical bliss. As far as the set list goes, I could not have asked for a better selection. Song after song, a feeling of elation enveloped me, and I could not begin to stop smiling. I can only hope that I’ll have a chance to see them again!

Thank you to everyone that performed, on and off of the stage. These two nights will remain etched in my mind for all my life.

And thank you, Mr. Fripp, for giving me my passion.


 out of 5 stars2 out of 5 stars2 out of 5 stars3 out of 5 starsWhat's this?   September 3, 2008
Written by kcpebras
I’ve just had a look on the set list. If you couldn’t see them live, this lineup doesn’t bring you anything new. It’s the double trio repertoire plus some drum duets and 2 double duo songs. I thought this incarnation would have been quite more representated, so imho it was by far the best one since the 70’s.

Sleepless, Elephant talk, One time... we’ve heard these lots of times before, and they sound always the same. And you would agree they aren’t amongst the most elaborate Crim material.

Although I like Red, Frame by frame, Neurotica, Dinosaur, 3oapp or Thela hun ginjeet, they also don’t bring us anything new. Is impossible to have new different versions of 70’s Crim material (not Larks’ 2, 21stCSM and Red)?

I would have preferred free tracks like Power circle and Thrush, and longer takes of Talking drum and B’Boom/THRAK. They would make all shows from the same tour more enjoyable and different from each other.


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsWow   September 3, 2008
Written by lesheifner
I waited with patience for the first release of this new Crimson to come about. Now, I listen in amazement again, for the first time in ages. I tend to give myself big breaks from listening to KC these days, and it pays off. We shouldn’t burn ourselves out, should we? I’ve burned myself out and allowed my energy towards much of this music to go from boiling to evaporation a few times. Moderation seemed like a good idea. Since 2004 or so, I’ve listened to very little of these fellas, with the exception of a few newer DGM Live downloads.

This show seems to start off slow and loose, but as some of us know, nothing worthwhile comes about quickly, or without a bit of friction. Part of this observation has to do with how clean and awesome the recording seems to my ears. If any of the shows from the 70’s had been recorded this well, I’ll bet many would have bitched and complained. My first assumption is that I can hear everything too well. But then I move on from the sound to the music.

It’s like watching a pot of water start to boil. It doesn’t seem to do much at first, but after a certain amount of time, you’ve got the hottest water you can get without evaporation. It seems like in this show, the band warms up to the point of boiling and adjusts to the point of keeping it constant.

A few things to remember...

-These guys have spent a relatively minimal amount of time together lately.
-They haven’t had two drummers since 1998.
-These guys still sound cooler and smarter than most bands out there today.

I love this show.


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsCelebrate good times, c'mon!   September 1, 2008
Written by davidfsnyder
I’ve had three dedicated listenings to this particular download (not in headphones), with time after each listening to "digest" what I heard.  I’m still digesting it, as it definitely is different from previous KC performances.

The audio quality is excellent. Astoundingly good for a FOH mix. I can clearly hear each player (except at times the drummers are so in sync that they sound as one) and the tone is excellent on each instrument.

The introductory soundscape (twern, twern, bleep, bleep) was very delicate, a bit tentative, with a sprinkle of impishness. It does help draw this listener into the performance. It is not one of RFs strongest offerings of this type.

The drums on Sleepless and Level Five are particularly terrifying. Robert’s playing on the instrumental break in Frame by Frame is ferocious, as well as on Level Five. Adrian’s finest vocal moment, in my opinion, is on The Construction of Light in which he sings the "random word-pool selection" section with the most convincing feeling I have heard on any of the many recorded performances I own of that song (or in any of the performances I’ve attended); very touching. His instrumental performance on Talking Drum is also stellar, for those who appreciate his mastery of the shrutis via the whammy bar etc. Tony is, as always, a monster bass player on every song. But, to me, the drummers really stole the show. The new kid Gavin Harrison in particular added some astonishing tasteful mmph to various pieces, and he and Pat had very strong, playful synergy. The tightness of their unisons: monster.

The main in-your-face clam was during Adrian’s otherwise amazing solo in Sleepless. And a couple of moments, I felt TL’s rendition of TG bass lines weren’t as compelling as TG’s (not surprising, given the short rehearsal and few number of shows). So, it’s not all perfect; but these points are few and far between.

The band performance was good to very good and often excellent. The rendition to digital media is excellent.

I do hope to hear more of this lineup in action, in particular to hear new compositions inspired by this lineup.


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsThe solution to those pesky ear hairs that you wanted rid off!   August 31, 2008
Written by Mattgroaning

An absolute stoater, as they say in these parts, and a must have to add to the collection.

This is like a greatest hits reimagined tour. I absolutely love it. The 80’s tracks sound invigorated and really scorch along. The nineties and noughties material subtly reworked and cooking. Monster versions of LTIA and Red. Things are different and retooled.

T-Lev really nails it all down in a way that I cannot define. He appears to play most of what Trey played, but only Trey can play it like he did, and yet takes it to places Trey did not.

The double drumming is a relevation on many tracks, adding a brio that I feel the last double drum pairing did not. Pat and Gavin really compliment each other positively, as opposed to Bill and Pats complimentary contrasting(???? how do I say this and get it right?) styles.

Ade and Robert just keep on keeping on, jostling, corruscating, duelling, soaring, searing and playing like no other lead/rhythm section on the planet ever. Inspirational playing.

Overall less cluttered than the Double Trio and more texturally enhanced than the last quad incarnation.

Why are you reading this when you should be downloading the gig??

Kudos to Discipline for this rare facility for the fans to be able to share in the music!! Keep up the great work.

 

 


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsThis is my brain on music   August 29, 2008
Written by DeVito
"Music is very fucking subjective," as someone once said. I attended all three shows at Park West (Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday), and my subjective experience was that Thursday night was the least compelling and involving of the concerts. Wednesday night was absolutely electric -- the audience was on their (our) feet half the night, with standing O’s before and after every song. My girlfriend was with me, and she really enjoyed it -- she’d never given Crimson a listen before, but she thought the concert was great, and now she’s a fan of "Frame by Frame" in particular. For me, the energy level dropped somewhat Thursday night (second time not as fun?), before rebounding on Friday (the last one is always sweet). In the virtual cathedral of memory, nothing can beat that Wednesday night show for me.

So what’s all that got to do with listening to this recording? Not much. This is tremendously powerful music, and if you have a decent stereo and crank the volume loud enough, you’ll get a pretty good sense of what it was like to be at the concert. The Levin/Mastelotto/Harrison rhythm section are like one of those multi-armed Hindu gods, not only providing a massive foundation but also embracing and surrounding and hovering over the guitars, anywhere and everywhere at once. This group’s strong suit is not subtlety (not yet, anyway) -- this is massive, muscular music. And the recording quality is just fine. The key, as someone pointed out on the Guestbook, is to play it LOUD. To which I can only add -- play it really, REALLY FUCKING LOUD.

Next, how about putting the best of the Nokia shows up for download?

--Chris DeVito


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsOverwhelming and Powerful   August 29, 2008
Written by gravityman
I downloaded this amazing performance while watching the (more like monitoring) the presidential related speeches.

It really struck me previewing these tracks how  powerful a sincere and well crafted musical performance in the moment can be.

I was pointed to the DGM download site by a fellow drummer, and I am certainly glad he did.

I am perhaps not what one would consider a die hard fan, but I have listened to KC since the early 70s, and owned a few recordings.

At the age of 50, I cheer on all efforts by the musical giants from my era, and in this case, I feel even more excited.

This performance is staggering, brimming with energy, bristling with musical intensity, cooking with chemistry.

It pulled me in to remember forgotten tracks that I haven’t heard in over 20 years.

On a side note, and in the "spirit of goodwill" may I would say that if you are disappointed, or in any way critical of the performances of  Pat Mastelotto and Gavin Harrison,then you need to sit down and listen, or play a drum kit yourself.

Dismissing these master drummers performance as simply a "groove and percussion part" is like calling a sunset over the Grand Canyon "fading light over some deep rocks".

Listen again, this is a controlled demolition of drumming.

Kudos to the rest of the band as well.

Download it now!  


 out of 5 stars4 out of 5 stars4 out of 5 stars4 out of 5 stars4 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 starsbring it on!!!   August 27, 2008
Written by mikey072

this show is well worth the purchase......it sounds great from the soundscapes to the drum duets....i just hope that they let the beast from the last night of the tour out of its cage, cause the vibe and the sound at the nokia need to be unleashed, for the whole world to hear......

 

 


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsSecondary Percussion Parts?   August 27, 2008
Written by GrassySound

I was very happy to see a show from the latest tour so quickly offered on DGMLive!  Having immediately purchased it, I eagerly sat down to give it a detailed listen.  I enjoyed hearing the remarkable T-Lev back in Crimson, and playing music he hadn’t originally been a part of. 

My main disappointment was with the dual percussion.  I was rather surprised to hear what sounded like synchronized drumming in many areas, or drummers taking turns on rhythms, rather than creating secondary drum parts.  The Double Trio featured, almost exclusively, a backbeat, and a second percussion part, as did the Muir/Bruford era.  Hearing the Pat/Gavin percussive duo left me rather disappointed.  Both are talented men, and I’m sure both could’ve expanded their drumming roles in this unique lineup of Crimson.


 out of 5 stars3 out of 5 stars3 out of 5 stars3 out of 5 stars4 out of 5 stars   August 27, 2008
Written by maxtognoni

After a lot of enthusiastic reviews I try to write my bittersweet impressions.Anyway is a good performance of the new line up but (for me)  Crims can do better.  I like very much the performance of Robert and Adrian, very brilliant as always, I like Tony Levin’s enthusiastic energy especially in the songs of the 80’s repertoire but not in the most recents songs. I like very much these two incredible drummers but for me one is enough. I compared Key songs like Level 5 and TCOL recorded in 2003 with 2008 recordings and without doubt 2003 is shining. I think that  the addiction of the formidable Gavin Harrison and the return of TLev are not enough to fill the absence of Trey Gunn. King Crimson with Trey was a band of Another Planet. Many Thanks!

Massimo


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsThe Beast in Chicago!   August 26, 2008
Written by Otohiko
They’re back and while there’s not much new content-wise on the plate, I wouldn’t be fooled for a second that this is the same KC that I saw 5 years ago!

I’ll concede that this is a band still looking for its ground - and having fun at it - and I really hope there are more chances for them to play live - and develop new material, since what we’re seeing here is definitely the birth of an absolutely devastating version of the band. I think the part of it that really needs to flex its wings a little is the Adrian-Robert duo - seems like it’s been a while for them in the Crim role (ProjeKct Six nonwithstanding). Robert’s current sound sizzles - he hasn’t grown soft; but I wish Adrian was let loose a bit more in all of this - it feels like he’s trying to, but he does get a little too concentrated in catching that interlocking-duo dynamic - which isn’t yet at the same level as it was back in 2003. But time will do it good again.

Tony and the new Gavin-Pat combo are on the spot - and they’re more than welcome. Of those, TLev is especially on the spot, just wow - he’s really redefining a lot of this material yet again. He crushes and crushes - a devilish and groovy bottom end that gives a completely new feel to the proceedings. You’d think he’d be a little intimidated between two guitarists and two drummers all around - but nope! It’s a dance for him through and through. He’s the one having the most fun in this band.

Please keep at it, crew! This is a band that has shown it can really give a new groove to the classics - and is begging for some new material now.


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsGet this!   August 26, 2008
Written by marsax73

I was ecstatic to hear Gavin joined the lineup and this recording is a testament to that decision.  It’s great to hear some new arrangements and of course the double drumming adds depth.  It’s also a pleasure to hear our good friend Tony on the stick again. 

If you do tour again, please stop by Florida!!


 out of 5 stars3 out of 5 stars3 out of 5 stars3 out of 5 stars4 out of 5 starsMusic is Work!   August 25, 2008
Written by Gilgamesh
Let’s just start off by saying that I am a fan of the music. I purchased this recording because I was curious to hear Tony Levin’s interpretation of Trey Gunn’s parts (not an easy task to achieve!) Being a professional musician myself, I realistically know that a show needs a couple of runthroughs to debug the flaws. Well this is King Crimson at it. Some of the tracks are already in amazing spirit! To me this recording shows that even Masters don’t always get it right the second time around! But we must also remember the reason we started playing music in the first place! For fun! So enjoy this recording!

Sylvain from Montreal, Qc


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsAwesome Show!!   August 25, 2008
Written by metalgod666
Great live recording!! Killer performance, I can’t wait for this line up to make an album. All Hail The Crimson King!!


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsKing Crimson is back!   August 25, 2008
Written by Caffieneman
This was an awesome show, Crim sounds just as good as they ever did.  Definitely worth the price to hear from this great band again.


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsKILLER!   August 25, 2008
Written by HalJarvis
Get it if you attended any of the 2008 shows, get it if you WISH you could have attended any/and or all, of the 2008 shows. PERIOD. that is all, stop.It’s tasty.


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsFrom a skeptic: SWEET   August 24, 2008
Written by jacethecrowl
I was little weary of the song list here, like a warmed-over double trio set, but I was hooked from TCOL. I never thought I’d say that, because this song has always left me completely cold. But the rhythm section here brings some much needed meat to it. I can’t wait to hear what this band can do with looser, more expansive songs like Frying Pan and Oyster Soup. TLev: thank you for bring a groove back to One Time! This song has been vanishing into the ether for years. Trey is great, but I don’t think he’s got a funky bone in his body. I love letting the drummers have some with Neurotica and Level Five. These arrangements may not stick, but shows that the material is being approached with a fresh ear, and the fact that TCOL finally clicked with me shows how much time some of the repertoire needs to develop. The only slightly sluggish thing here is Dinosaur, everyone just sounds a bit tired. But things come to a smashing conclusion with a no-frills Indiscipline -- to these ears the best live version. In short, this is an encouraging document of an exciting young band. I hope there will be more.


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsSmiling about Chicago   August 24, 2008
Written by theundercoverman
So, it was the drums all along. Putting two, mostly acoustic drummers together, with the usual guitarist’s wet dream of Fripp and Belew, and inviting Tony Levin to bounce around with his stick, in between the two happy couples, is what Fripp has been getting ready for these past 40 years.
Even my wife quite likes it, and she, being female, is normally scared away by the band’s previous rhythm sections’ ugly, muscularity, with the exception of Bruford and Wetton in about two songs, oh alright one – Easy Money. This is a set you can actually, sort of dance to, and it’s still as heavy and clever and inventive as King Crimson always is.
The highlights are songs I hadn’t liked too much in the past – Neurotica is cinematic and hallucinatory, rather than cacophonous. Sleepless’ is sexier, more fluid. Level Five used to sound like a guitar lesson. Now it’s a celebration, with twin machine guns joyously punching the air on either side. The Construction of Light is more light, less construction. Even Dinosaur is OK.
If they were to market this album, it could do quite well. They won’t, so let’s be happy to have found it by ourselves. Please bring the show to London Robert, or Europe at least. Please.


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsExcellent download   August 24, 2008
Written by HarrySpade
The sound quality of this download is outstanding, despite a few buried guitar lines. The performance is loose yet driving, and it sounds like they’re having fun. This is the meanest version of "Dinosaur" that I’ve heard, and the 70s material peels...um... wallpaper, is it?

While there are no new songs here there are enough spins on familiar tunes to make everything seem fresh. This isn’t an oldies review by any means.

Some reviews have pointed out the odd mix from the soundboard. The first time I listened to it- through pc speakers- I thought the same thing. I’ve since played it in my car and on my home stereo and it is thunderous. This one definitely needs to be cranked to the rafters to be appreciated in full. I don’t think that’s a drawback; after all , it’s a concert recording. Play it loudly!

I attended the 8/12 Keswick show, and I am quite happy with this download as a sustitute souvenir.


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsGreat warm up for NYC   August 23, 2008
Written by magma2
Caught the NYC 17th show.  Drove down from Virginia and well worth the effort.  The last show of a very short tour of one of the best bands in history.  Few bands keep progressing and this tour was a nice retrospective.  Lot’s of fun and great playing.  I hope DMG releases the show on the 17th for the outstanding playing, enthusiasm and let’s not forget the obvious historic value.  Who knows, maybe that was the last time Crimson will ever been seen?  Great note to go out on. 

I will add that Harrison was outstanding.  Not only did he bring himself to the music, but his handling of some of the Bruford off-time bits on the duets were nicely executed and a wonderful tip-of-the-hat to KC’s most notable drummer. The whole band was outstanding.  It’s nice to hear this Chicago gig just to see how much tighter the band was by the time they made it to NYC.  Which, BTW, is a great venue with outstanding sound. My vote is in for the August 17 release as well.


 out of 5 stars2 out of 5 stars2 out of 5 stars3 out of 5 stars a disapointment   August 23, 2008
Written by orrason

I have been reading the reviews of "great shows" and immediately purshased the live recordings.  My favorite TCOL has to work to make me happy. It did not this time.  The version here is very rusty, unthight and the important "lock-in of the guitars" is absent here. The bands feels unsecure.  Tony is also having problems synching with the rest. Is beat is too behind, it needs to rush the song. The guitar sounds chosen are also unconvincing.  So how about the rest of the album ?   The same rustyness is felt throughput the album and it failed to excite me.   I sincerely hope that the Nokia recordings are one level higher because otherwise King Crimson members might have lost their playing abilities. I want to believe that this is down to lack of excersise. This material is well documented by the band and if they are going to play to it again now in 2008 it better has to offer new altered versions. The dual drum approach does not make it for me.


Sorry for being negative, but someone has to be realistic in this forum. I will give Nokia a chance to change my mind on KC 2008.

Örn - Iceland


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsYa DID have to be there!   August 23, 2008
Written by dacope

For my 18 year old son and me, this concert was a culmination of our pursuit of the Crimson King.  This past year, we saw Pat with TU opening for Tool, Gavin with Porcupine Tree, Ade with his Power Trio (man, would I love to hear a whole show of them doing KC songs -- they ROCK!), and Tony with Liquid Tension Experiment.  We even saw Fripp progeny California Guitar Trio.  All that was left was to see the man behind the curtain, er, stack -- That Annoying Man Fripp.

Yeah, this show has a few warts but it was still a great show nonetheless.   KC music is always powerful and challenging and to hear it in a small venue with others who obviously appreciate it is a tremendous experience.  Chatting with Luis from Venezuela and Bill from Salt Lake City about all sorts of music and meeting Sister Fripp was a great part of the concert experience. And anyone who has kids can tell you that being able to share and enjoy a special time like this with your children is one the best things about being a parent.  My son and I traveled from Seattle for this show -- we had never been to Chicago and we had a blast!

And thanks to DGM, now we have a wonderful momento. 


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsAverage, unfortunately...   August 23, 2008
Written by takavl
Let’s just say that I’ll listen to it again...opinions being subject to change, of course.

However -- p’raps something was lost in translation...maybe ya had to be there?
Not a fan of Porcupine Tree, so I wasn’t terribly excited about Gavin with Pat.  I could discern no real difference between the two...unlike w/Bruford and Pat, I know that that’s an unfair comparison.  Guitars in some spots were WAY low, the performance itself sounds a bit uninspired...very VERY happy that TLev is back, but even he can’t help the cold, sterile mathrock of TCOL, and the song’s lyrics still irritate.  The setlist?  Not much different than the double trio, and the songs weren’t altered or changed to give a different taste...should I have just listened to the mid90s live stuff?

So...my first listen disappoints, but I will try again. 


 out of 5 stars3 out of 5 stars3 out of 5 stars3 out of 5 stars4 out of 5 starsNot So Great Recording   August 23, 2008
Written by ScottM

I’m sure it was a lot more fun in person with big waves of electric noise hitting people.  On this, which sounds like a soundboard recording, as per usual for those, there’s not much energy, the drum sound is unappealing, and the whole thing sounds a bit uneven.  I’m very glad Crimson is active, and I don’t want to dissuade anyone from buying this in lieu of being able to actually see the band.  But is the band tight yet?  No.  Does the 2-drummer concept sound effective on this recording?  No.

 


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsA MUST BUY!!!!   August 23, 2008
Written by mahanta
I have seen Crimson every show since 1974. The two shows in Philly were the best I have ever seen/heard. If you were not one of the lucky few to catch them on this abreviated tour, at least this will give you the powerful version of the latest incarnation of the Crim. Only time will tell if they stay together but I hope so. Gavin and Pat are tremendous together and welcome back Tony. Don't hesitate or think. Just buy!!!!


 out of 5 stars4 out of 5 stars4 out of 5 stars4 out of 5 stars4 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 starsUtterly Mysterious   August 22, 2008
Written by BilSabab
Having been at this show it’s interesting to compare the memory of the experience with listening to this recording. The front line is hung out to dry a bit in this mix. TCoL is pretty painful in spots, and ToaPP vocals slip out of harmony quite easily. I don’t remember the off notes having a strong negative impact on the performance at the time. The band and audience carried on to the next bit. And things do get a good bit better as the night goes on.

Red, Neurotica, Larks II, One Time, Level 5, Sleepless and Indiscipline are the standout performances from this recording. There are little nuances throughout the performance that weren’t evident in the house sound (where the drums were much louder relative to everything else that was going on). Robert was almost inaudible on FxF and Thela as I remember. And during the show I never caught things like the Larks’ I violin sampling, even the Curves end-chord crash used during the opening duet sounds unfamiliar.

At the time, I didn’t understand Tony’s use of the Stick on tracks like Red, Lark’s II, and Thela, but listening back here I’m convinced, particularly on Red, where the middle register gets a little more juice from Tony’s playing. I’m still interested as to why Ade takes up the soloing mantle on ToaPP instead of RF.

For the uninitiated to the new line-up, the new arrangements of Neurotica, Sleepless, and Level Five are worth checking out.

Looking forward to more from this line-up,

Eric Anderson


 out of 5 stars3 out of 5 stars3 out of 5 stars3 out of 5 stars4 out of 5 starsDisappointing   August 22, 2008
Written by tmansrp
Under-rehearsed & sloppy.  The lack of synergy between Belew & Fripp came as a complete surprise, as did hearing TLev struggle with Trey’s parts, particularly on ConstruKction of Light.  2nd drummer Gavin frequently steps all over the other players’ parts. Clams abound.  Disappointing to a fault.


 out of 5 stars4 out of 5 stars4 out of 5 stars4 out of 5 stars4 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 starsvery worthy   August 22, 2008
Written by timohara

I was at the 8/17 show in New York and was very satisfied. I did, at the time, feel like the guitars were too far back in the mix, though the sound overall was nicely balanced. Listening to this recording made me think that perhaps having the guitars recede a bit to the background was a conscious decision by the group. I would describe this Crimson’s sound as egalitarian...balanced almost to a fault. It works brilliantly in places, not so much in others. I feel like some of the wilder solos (RF in Dinosaur, AB in Level Five) suffer a bit from a loss of power.

Where it works, it is amazing. I especially love ’sleepless’ on here; fans of this tune need to hear this version. My new favorite version of ’one time’...RF’s solo is so intimate and gorgeous. Love Vroom and the Coda; is that a sample from ’Easy Money’ that Pat slips in at the end? First time through, all I heard were the mistakes in TCOL, now I hear new and unexpected things from that tune. And the new arrangement of Level Five is really great.

Overall, a very strong, interesting show. I agree it takes the King a while to descend (as it did on 8/17), but that gradual materialization just adds to the interest. Let’s hope we haven’t heard the last from this particular KC...the potential is glaring. 


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsWow.   August 22, 2008
Written by foodforthemoon
So, for the first time since 1995 I’ve missed a King Crimson ’tour’.  The Park West is a fantastic venue for the band, but a prior commitment to a family trip prevented me from attending. 

All the better then, to be able to hear this show.  Recording a show in many ways is like taking a picture of the ocean.  Something immense, mysterious, and enveloping is squashed and flattened into a small frame.  But this recording is different, and carries with it a certain spark.  I don’t know what it is, but it’s there. 

Thank goodness these musicians were able to come together and do this.


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsThe Big Crim   August 22, 2008
Written by JPrisco
All right then; we see the pattern: those who have not heard this lineup find this to be fantastic, and those who have heard/seen shows later than this find it to be lesser than what they have already experienced. No doubt both are true, and I for one am glad to hear they didn’t lose steam over the course of the tour :-)

Beginnings are always fraught with different possibilities -- less ’successful’ perhaps, or ’ragged’, as another poster put it, but what of that? Comparison to a fellow band of similar vintage (with whom KC has shared a band member or two) turns the discussion away from such minor matters. Yes; I too look forward to DGM offering a later, more ’smoking’ performance from this lineup, but the air of discovery in early shows has its own fascination (e.g., the Double Trio at the Prix d’ami).

Meanwhile, I’m buying this one so as to hear the whole spectrum of the tour - from rough-and-promising beginning to confident progress to final denouement. Just think how much more you’ll enjoy that Nokia download when it becomes available!


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 stars   August 22, 2008
Written by sshindell

Do not hesitate to buy this show--the sound quality is superb and the "new" take on old favorites is a delight. But let’s hope (and lobby!) for a hotter night. I was at the 8/12 Keswick show and this one lags in energy compared to that jaw dropper. To my ears the music that night had this kind of mechanized-animal quality ... violent, unrelenting and pissed.

Fun stuff.


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsSmooookin...   August 22, 2008
Written by barrystock
Oy! Now that’s what I’m talking about. "Red" just set my little blond ear hairs alight, and I’ve had to use the fire extinguisher on my head. This lineup has the goods, in fact the whole grocery store -- highly appreciated non-tentative behavior. Please don’t be too long Mr. King Crimson, we miss you already.


 out of 5 stars3 out of 5 stars3 out of 5 stars3 out of 5 stars4 out of 5 starsGood - but not there yet   August 22, 2008
Written by danceofthedawn74
I saw them twice at the Nokia (14th and 16th) and they were tighter then.  They are still a little rough at the edges in this gig.


 out of 5 stars3 out of 5 stars3 out of 5 stars3 out of 5 stars4 out of 5 starsNowhere near as good as 8/16/08   August 22, 2008
Written by wjoyce
Compared to the show I saw on the 16th at the Nokia, this pales by comparison.  Not as powerful, and the drums seem pushed far to the back.  The level of intensity isn’t the same. Nice to have a live recording from the tour, but was disappointed when listening to it.  My head is still buzzing from the NY show.  


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsWonderful Stuff!   August 21, 2008
Written by MozoMan
Hearing this show makes me wish I could have been there! Sleepless was a huge surprise, and I think Sid has hit the nail on the head re: 12" Mix. Great show and great performance.


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsThe Beast emerges - albeit a bit slowly - from hibernation   August 21, 2008
Written by outreville_in

As a long time KC listener but incredibly a first-time KC audience member, I approached this show with an uncritical expectation. I didn’t think it would take much to please me.  I was, however, left a bit disappointed by the show. I didn’t feel that the band hit its stride until nearly an hour in, which had the effect of making the show seem shorter than it actually was.  No new material was presented, and only minor variations were offered on this well known and arguably overexposed repertoire. (Everything heard here has been recorded live, and arguably better performed, on numerous prior occasions.)   The band didn’t get airborne, in my opinion, until it played "B’Boom", then gaining altitude on "Dinosaur" and "Level Five".  From that point on, though, the band was swinging hard and real pleasure to listen to. 

I only found one thing objectionable: I was really surprised and disappointed to see a band of Crimson’s caliber and presumable lack of pretension stoop to engage in that most tedious of rock concert cliches - The Repeated Standing Ovation/Encore Ritual.  Certainly the evident appreciation and dedication of the King Crimson audience makes such a pretense unnecessary (and a bit insulting).  Overall, though, the performance was a treat, and I can check off "See King Crimson perform live" from my list of things I must do before I die.


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsMind blowing fantastic show   August 21, 2008
Written by Goddard

I couldn’t go to any of the mini tour shows as unfortunately I live in Poland and getting a US visa here is very difficult and expensive. So I had to wait and I have read all the reviews and waited impatiently for every word/picture and finally a download of the music. I even thought that some people had exaggerated saying it was the best lineup of the band ever (so many great lineups in 40 years and this one the best – why should it be?). But after downloading this show and listening to the music, I think it really may be the best KC lineup ever. The musicians are at their peak and I even can’t hear what Sid’s talking about that they start slowly to get up to the full speed. From the Introductory Soundscapes to closing Indiscipline the machine works great and some peaks are absolutely mind blowing. What I dream now is the realization of the musicians’ potential in the new KC recording (keep my fingers crossed for the new album). But if RF decided to only celebrate the anniversary and play the another, bigger US tour then I will get the US visa and go to see them live for sure! The download is a must for any fan.


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsWell Worth The Trouble   August 21, 2008
Written by Mesa_XI

I procrastinated on purchasing a ticket for this show, and it sold out. Then went through the hell of finding 2 tickets, only for them to not arrive. Through fortunate coincidence I was still able to go, and this show kicked ass. Definately worth the hassle. I shamefully arrived late as well, entering towards the end of Red. Level 5 was awesome, Gavin really impressed me. I’ve learned not to expect much out of new musicians as not to be let down, but I was blown away. I’ve been waiting to see Tony for a long time, and was delighted to get to see the funk fingers. 5 star show, worth every ounce of trouble.


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsCelebrate 40 Years Of King Crimson   August 21, 2008
Written by deadman12
I just finished listening to my download of Disc 1 of the Park West show. WOW! The sound is great and well balanced. Congrats to the man at the board. Highlights include Level 5, Red and the incredibly creative drum duets. Welcome aboard Gavin! Adrian’s vocal parts are quite clear on this recording. I saw the band at both Nashville shows so this set is a special reminder to me of how much fun it was to see KC again. Very cool seeing Tony again. If you were not as fortunate as I was in seeing Crimson on this tour, then grab this set (legally of course) because you will not be  let down. I love hearing this band warts and all. As I’ve said before, "Math is hard" and this lineup of KC gets an A+. When it is time to be Crim again, I’ll be there and I won’t be alone. Thank you Robert and KC ’08. You guys really delivered the goods!


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsBrilliant   August 21, 2008
Written by yesworld
Thanks for making the Park West 2nd Night available to purchase.
Well Im impressed to .
Makes me think I should have boarded a plane to New York for the Nokia gigs after all.Staggering sound Quality 5 Star as far as Im concerned.
Nothing like a great drum duo , Robert you out did yourself by getting Gavin Harrison to join with Pat in this latest KC lineup.
The vocals on this by Adrian are really great , by far the Best King Crimson Vocalist guitarist you have employed to work in KC.Tonys work is superb as always , I miss the Deception of the Thrush , but will get over it Robert. Robert I enjoy your input on this recording as well.Thank you for taking The Beast out on the road.
Please more shows from this tour available to download at dgm live.
We Wants It My Precious

Thanks you again and its good night from him.

Steve Mahoney
Wellington
New Zealand


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsRedefining the Classics   August 20, 2008
Written by rhammill

I was at the Saturday show in NYC and the mix was a bit off where I was sitting in the mezzanine, so I was looking forward to hearing this show to find out what was really going on.

While it was obvious that the double-drumming has a huge impact on the material, what’s most noticeable to me (and quite frankly astonishing) is the way that Tony has redefined the bass parts as well.

Some of them were of necessity. Construcktion of Light was one that I was particularly interested in, since it’s not all that simple in its approach to begin with, along with Tony’s commentary on his site. And while I know it’s different, his approach is so compelling and fits so well that I can’t even remember what he’s "supposed" to be playing. In many cases I think he went with a simpler part (in terms of playability) but incorporated bass chords and such that really hold it together well, perhaps in a more immediate way than the original.

But where he really jumps out is in Red. On this and many other pieces this time he opted for the Stick. Perhaps as a result of the focus of the last solo album, and possibly because he seemed to be travelling lighter this time (no NS Upright, which I still think would be killer on Red). As a result, instead of sticking with the standard driving bassline here, he’s playing along with the guitar riff while maintaining that driving beat at the same time. It’s not the same exact riff, but an intepretation of it that makes this version (along with two drummers) the heaviest version I’ve heard.

The area that I think didn’t work as well as it might is in the few places they opted to highlight the drummers during the tunes. For example, in Neurotica they’ve chosen to drop the chaos of the thrakking guitars, leaving only the bass and occasional car-horn effects from Adrian (which are low in the mix). I thought that the guitars dropped out of the mix at the show. These segments had previously provided a great musical representation of the chaotic city streets and that’s lacking now.

Missing in action were Pat’s loops and samples. Granted, with the two drummers it would be a bit much. I also think that the mix of Pat, the loops and Trey were a remarkably original rhythm section and were particularly adept at tying into Robert’s soundscapes. The Improv on the Tour Box is a perfect example of this. But that approach is for a different band, and Pat has proven himself to be a master of adaptation. In addition, the Double Duo seemed to have a more introspective approach to the music, whereas this lineup was truly more celebratory.

Perhaps that’s a result of the purpose of this series of shows, possibly it’s contributed by Robert’s gear giving him the freedom to just play, and also to direct the center of attention to the rest of the band and the music. Whatever it was, for me-and the music-it worked.

In any event, this is a new Crimson, even if they were "only" playing the old material at these shows. Almost every song has a fresh approach to it, and the energy is phenomenal. The only thing that is possibly lacking in a few of the tunes (even when I saw them a few nights later) is the precision, and that seems to be sacrificed for...in King Crimson of all places...FUN.


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Written by gfaiers

On first listen, I am not only impressed with the impact that the twin drumming has on the performance, but it seems that Fripp, Belew and Levin have really approached this material from a new perspective.  There are some sweet touches, whether it’s vocals (Belew has some fresh takes and Levin is singing some passages in ways I’ve never heard him) or the arrangements (Neurotica has been mentioned in concert reviews, but many of the songs have different arrangements....even "The Talking Drum" which is the song that hooked me on KC years, make that decades, ago).   I’m impressed.   While some complained about no new material, so much of this sounds so fresh it almost seems new. 


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsReview: The Beast - August 7, 2008 - Chicago   August 20, 2008
Written by DanAnderson

Just downloaded the show.  Interesting.  For the third time the Beast is defined by its rhythm section.  The first was the live Lark’s Tongues band.  If not defined by it, definitely driven by John & Bill.

Then came Trey & Pat in the TCoL band.

Now it’s the trio of Tone 11 & GavP@.

GavP@ show what was lacking in the Thrak band - they are a great combination.  Sorry to see Trey gone but Tone 11 is his usual wonderful self.  Love the reworking of Neurotica.  Like the lightening up of Coda: Marine 475 (or is it 415?  I can’t remember.) and the slightly revisionist Sleepless.  Don’t like what happened to Level Five.  Oh well, not my band, is it.

Now let’s see what this band can come up with as far as original material. Hmmm.  Can’t wait til they come to the Pacific Northwest!

Dan


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Written by cuicawrangler
Having been fortunate enough to experience this show, I can attest to the energy and excitement levels. Thanks for loading this so quickly!


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Written by tmarciniak
Excellent show. Lots of energy and a spark of inspiration and humour in every note/pause played or missed (there are quite a few in here).

Warning: powerful rhythm section. Prepare to be blasted.


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsit kCarries over   August 20, 2008
Written by davidly
The crowd was too restless to sit and listen to the Introductory Soundscape that night, so it’s nice to have a undisturbed piece of it here for posterity.

Pat and Gavin quickly revealed what they were gonna bring to the stage:  Krim-terplay with more welcome attack in the thrak.  I have to admit that when I heard a second drummer was being brought in for this tour, I was sceptical, as I thought that Pat was ready to take the band in a direction with less drumming and more odd sounding instrumentation. I now can’t imagine Level Five without two drummers!  And indeed, throughout these eight-appendage poundings, Gavin frees up Pat to supply a little more of his 21st Century percussion to the mix.

T-Lev starts out smokin’ on TCoL, proving that he’s not only a monster in numbers too high for me to count, but as quick a study as the best of ‘em.  And his backing vocals on ToaPP finally shut the audience up!

Speaking of which, Ade was all rock, no talk!  Which means he was basically all business, but not to worry, for he supplies a solo here and there that’ll be a treat, even for his biggest fans.

This extra concentration also made for what I read as a special chemistry between him and Fripp, who — BE WARNED BEFORE DOWNLOAD — you can’t actually see while listening to this recording!  Just listen to One Time, Larks’ II, and Level Five and then complain if you dare!


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsPhenomenal   August 20, 2008
Written by Andrew72287
I was also at the 8/17 show and am desperately hoping that one is released as well. But this show sounds phenomenal as well. I will also be buying this one as well.


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsIntriguing Lineup   August 20, 2008
Written by JonathanLane
I was at the 8/17 show in NYC.  It was an intriguing lineup, with interesting takes on some old favorites.  Gavin complemented several of the tunes nicely, while only a handful seemed to not really gain much from his input.

Definitely worth the trip from Rochester, NY.  Wouldn’t have missed it for the world, and desperately hope they release the 8/17 show.

I’ll be buying and downloading this 8/7 show later tonight.


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsExcellent Sound!   August 20, 2008
Written by jfortier
Thank you for making this available!! I was at this show, and now I get to re-live some truly memorable performances!  The beast was unleashed this night!


 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars5 out of 5 stars6 out of 5 starsSounds great!   August 20, 2008
Written by Wilcox660
Listening to these samples, I’m struck by the depth of the "soundfield" for lack of a better word.  An excellent sounding recording that reveals many fine pings and bangs.  Ah, if only DGM accepted checks or money orders, so I could own this!  I eagerly await a physical release from this tour!  :) 


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Written by AcousticPhenomena
To anyone who was not at any of the shows: YOU MUST HAVE THIS. To anyone who was at any of the shows: A MUST HAVE!

This lineup of crim is out of this world. Gavin’s first. The soundquality is fantastic. I hope they all get released. (I’m only on TCOL so far and it’s a little rocky but I’m still shaking in my boots with excitement)


 

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