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Grooveshark
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Tue., Oct 18, 2011

There's an insight into the working methods of Grooveshark in the comments section of the Digital Music News. My thanks to Rockette for sending in the following post. He writes "The row about Grooveshark rumbles on at Digital Music News. Most commentators deplore the companyís lack of ethics, and of course there are the usual dismissive comments from Brave-New-Worlders claiming that the only future for the music biz is for all artists to give away their tracks for free.

This recent anonymous post caught my eye:

I work for Grooveshark. Here is some information from the trenches:

We are assigned a predetermined ammount of weekly uploads to the system and get a small extra bonus if we manage to go above that (not easy).The assignments are assumed as direct orders from the top to the bottom, we donít just volunteer to "enhance" the Grooveshark database.

All search results are monitored and when something is tagged as "not available", it getís queued up to our lists for upload. You have to visualize the database in two general sections: "known" stuff and "undiscovered/indie/underground". The "known" stuff is taken care internally by uploads. Only for the "undiscovered" stuff are the users involved as explained in some posts above. Practically speaking, there is not much need for users to upload a major label album since we already take care of this on a daily basis.

Are the above legal, or ethical? Of course not. Donít reply to give me a lecture. I know. But if the labels and their laywers canít figure out how to stop it, then I donít feel bad for having a job. Itís tough times.

Why am I disclosing all this? Well, I have been here a while and I donít like the attitude that the administration has aquired against the artists. They are the enemy. They are the threat. The things that are said internally about them would make you very very angry. Interns are promised getting a foot in the music industry, only to hear these people cursing and bad mouthing the whole industry all day long, to the point where you wonder what would happen if Grooveshark getís hacked by Anonymous one day and all the emails leak on some torrent or something.

And, to confirm the fears of the members of King Crimson, there is no way in hell you can get your stuff down. They are already tagged since you sent in your first complaint. The administration knows that you canít afford to sue for infringement.

Judging by the way Grooveshark have conducted themselves in their dealings with Declan Colgan and Robert Fripp, this has the ring of truth. In the old days, the enemy of musicians were what Zappa called "the old cigar-chomping guys"; now it appears there is a new foe, somewhat younger but just as devious and unscrupulous.  As Pete Townshend said, "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss".


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On This Date 46 Years Ago
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Tue., Jan 13, 2015
This date in 1969 marks the official beginning of King Crimson with the start of rehearsals in the cramped basement of the Fulham Palace Cafe. Situated at 193 Fulham Palace Road, W6, the cafe was owned by George and Peter Calatychos who let out their basement as a rehearsal space. It had been found by Peter Sinfield, then the band's roadie and lighting person.

According to Ian McDonald's diary at around 7.30pm, Dik, Pete, Bob and Greg called round to his flat to come and shift the 'tron to the new rehearsal rooms on the Fulham Palace Road. Once they'd set everything up, McDonald's diary also reveals the band had a blow until just after 10.00 p.m.

It would be King Crimson's base of operations for the next two and a half years.




Here's how the cafe was looking in 2011 when I visited the location to take part in a Japanese TV documentary...











It's astonishing to think that a four piece band and all their gear used to fit into such a confined space. The same space was used by bands after King Crimson vacated the cafe in 1972 for several years.





Live At The Orpheum At Home
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Tue., Jan 13, 2015
Here's a picture of composer Andrew Keeling at home with his copy of Live At The Orpheum taken from Andrew's Facebook page.



If you've got a snap of the album at home and you'd like to share with everyone, send it to us via competitions@dgmlive.com marked Orpheum.

Guestbook Reprieved
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Mon., Jan 12, 2015
Just when you thought it was all over - the guestbook has received a last-minute stay of execution! Check out David Singleton's updated diary for the details. 


Mister Stormy's Monday Selection
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Mon., Jan 12, 2015
Mister Stormy has blown the dust off Robert Fripp's appearance on the Mark Radcliffe Show on Radio 1 back in July 1995 There's nearly 25 minutes worth of witty banter and three soundscapes (including the legendary No Pottyflushing) to tickle your earbuds. Tune in to the fun right here.


King Crimson & In C
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Mon., Jan 12, 2015
Composer Robin Rimbaud aka Scanner was talking about the influences upon his work, including King Crimson, on BBC Radio 3ís concert of minimalist music last night. The programme was a celebration of Terry Rileyís seminal work In C and as well as containing a performance of the piece it featured the work of other composers. You can hear Robin talking about his own new work, Unsleeping, here receiving its world premier, at around 18.00 minutes into the broadcast. 


Rolling Stone: KC is best new touring band of 2014
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Mon., Jan 12, 2015
King Crimson made Rolling Stone critic David Fricke's highlights of 2014 as you can read here. 


All About Live At The Orpheum
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Sun., Jan 11, 2015
Here's a review of Live At The Orpheum from John Kelman over at All About Jazz.  


Starless In Situ 9
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Fri., Jan 9, 2015
How about this photo sent in from New York by ace bassist and much else besides, Clint Bahr, who writes: "The Starless box meets my 'tron..."



Adrian's Music Talk
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Fri., Jan 9, 2015
Following on from their recent interview with Pat Mastelotto, the Riff & Ralk website chatted with Adrian Belew which you can listen to here. 


Cat Food Again!
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Thu., Jan 8, 2015
Over the last 24 hours thereís been an understandable flurry of excitement online and across social media at King Crimsonís 1970 Top of the Pops appearance turning up on Youtube featuring Keith Tippett, Michael and Peter Giles, Robert Fripp and Greg Lake playing Cat Food. Up until then the only known documentation of the band's appearance to lip sync their single on the show were Harry Hammond's photographs.

DGM were alerted about the existence of the video at the start of the week just before it went online and immediately entered into discussions to have the footage returned to the KC archive.

The original footage had indeed been wiped by the BBC. However, foreign TV stations who bought the show were able to record their own continuity and insert them into BBC footage for transmission in their countries. In this instance the host is Joe Berger for the German show Hits A Go Go.

The lost footage was the source of a spoof news report on this site back in 2006 for April Fools Day. The DGMLive prankster team were considering another pass at the story later this year but will now have to come up with another wheeze!   


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