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:: Posted by Sid Smith on Tue., Oct 18, 2011

There's an insight into the working methods of Grooveshark in the comments section of the Digital Music News. My thanks to Rockette for sending in the following post. He writes "The row about Grooveshark rumbles on at Digital Music News. Most commentators deplore the companyís lack of ethics, and of course there are the usual dismissive comments from Brave-New-Worlders claiming that the only future for the music biz is for all artists to give away their tracks for free.

This recent anonymous post caught my eye:

I work for Grooveshark. Here is some information from the trenches:

We are assigned a predetermined ammount of weekly uploads to the system and get a small extra bonus if we manage to go above that (not easy).The assignments are assumed as direct orders from the top to the bottom, we donít just volunteer to "enhance" the Grooveshark database.

All search results are monitored and when something is tagged as "not available", it getís queued up to our lists for upload. You have to visualize the database in two general sections: "known" stuff and "undiscovered/indie/underground". The "known" stuff is taken care internally by uploads. Only for the "undiscovered" stuff are the users involved as explained in some posts above. Practically speaking, there is not much need for users to upload a major label album since we already take care of this on a daily basis.

Are the above legal, or ethical? Of course not. Donít reply to give me a lecture. I know. But if the labels and their laywers canít figure out how to stop it, then I donít feel bad for having a job. Itís tough times.

Why am I disclosing all this? Well, I have been here a while and I donít like the attitude that the administration has aquired against the artists. They are the enemy. They are the threat. The things that are said internally about them would make you very very angry. Interns are promised getting a foot in the music industry, only to hear these people cursing and bad mouthing the whole industry all day long, to the point where you wonder what would happen if Grooveshark getís hacked by Anonymous one day and all the emails leak on some torrent or something.

And, to confirm the fears of the members of King Crimson, there is no way in hell you can get your stuff down. They are already tagged since you sent in your first complaint. The administration knows that you canít afford to sue for infringement.

Judging by the way Grooveshark have conducted themselves in their dealings with Declan Colgan and Robert Fripp, this has the ring of truth. In the old days, the enemy of musicians were what Zappa called "the old cigar-chomping guys"; now it appears there is a new foe, somewhat younger but just as devious and unscrupulous.  As Pete Townshend said, "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss".

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Mister Stormy's Monday Selection
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Mon., Jul 20, 2015
Mister Stormy has blown the cobwebs off the session reels of Larksí Tongues In Aspic Part Two and isolated the violin, bass and guitar tracks. You can download this remarkable item here or listen to the track over on the DGMLive Youtube channel.

The ConstruKction Of Crim - Video!
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Sun., Jul 19, 2015
Sound and video hero, Trev Wilkins has compressed three days of music-making by the Crims into sixty seconds. Check out The ConstruKction of Crim over on our Youtube site. 

Also new on the site is the view from Tony Levin's office in the King Crimson rehearsal room, and a few words from Robert, followed by a few notes from Jakko.

Tony's Pix
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Sat., Jul 18, 2015
At the end of this week's rehearsals, Tony Levin has posted a great set of pics of the sessions. Check them out here. 

KC In The UK
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Thu., Jul 16, 2015
King Crimson rehearsals are underway this week ahead of the first full UK tour since 1982, which begins next month. 

Thirty-three years ago, the KC tour schedule took in Oxford, Guildford, Cromer, Dunstable and Poole, these in effect being play-in gigs for the Beat material prior to the recording of the album in London's Odyssey Studios. 

Before that, you would have had to have gone back to the winter of 1972 to find Crimson performing in cities such as Cardiff, Brighton, and Birmingham.

The 2015 tour is a huge opportunity to hear the latest incarnation of the band unveil brand new material written since last year's US tour.  In addition, the group will be playing older repertoire, some of it not heard on a UK stage since it was first played in 1969. Indeed, there's some material, such as Starless, which has never performed in the UK at all.

Brighton has now sold out and, at the time of writing, the London dates are not far behind. With second nights added in Salford, Birmingham and Edinburgh, the tour promises to be a real King Crimson celebration.

Given the rarity of something like a full UK tour, if you're thinking about going to see King Crimson but haven't made your mind up yet, best not wait too another 33 years!

Fair Streaming
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Thu., Jul 16, 2015
Anil Prasad has followed up his recent viral polemic on streaming with a look at what a more equitable streaming model might look like, including comments from Trey Gunn and Markus Reuter. Check it out here. 

Adrian's Idiom
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Tue., Jul 14, 2015
Adrian Belew has unveiled his latest composition on his Youtube page. Writing about the tune Adrian notes "itís a brand new song called "idiom" from the upcoming FLUX pack.*

in case youíre unsure, an idiom is a phrase or expression used figuratively rather than literally. for example if you use the expression "he bought the farm" you are not referring to someone purchasing real estate, youíre talking about someone dying.

idioms fascinate me because they are usually bizarre. there are thousands of idioms in the english language. this song is made entirely of idioms.


it was raining cats and dogs
between a rock and a hard place
so I drove him up the wall
and down to the wire
at the drop of a hat,
an arm and a leg
he lost his head
for a piece of cake

so he went back to the drawing board
for a taste of his own medicine
with a chip on his shoulder
tighter than dickís hat band
he was off the hook
on the fence
over the top
and out on a limb

Iím an idiom
somebodyís pulling my leg
Iím an idiom
you must be pulling my leg

the song was recorded by daniel rowland and miles fuqua at studiobelew in mt. juliet, tennessee
mixed and mastered by daniel rowland
written and performed by yours truly
written on july 1, 2015

*a full explanation of the new FLUX pack is coming soon.

Oblique Murphy
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Tue., Jul 14, 2015
Ronan Chris Murphy, who worked on various King Crimson mixing projects, including USA, and was part of the ProjeKct Two crew, has released a video where he provides a beginner's guide to Brian Eno and Peter Schmidt's Oblique Strategies. Check it out here.

King Canada
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Mon., Jul 13, 2015
With both nights in Quebec now sold out, a third date has been added to King Crimson's run of dates in Toronto.

The full dates for the Canadian tour are:

Fri 13th Nov Quebec Palais Montcalm
Sat 14th Nov Quebec Palais Montcalm
Mon 16th Nov Montreal Theatre St. Denis
Tue 17th Nov  Montreal Theatre St. Denis
Thu 19th Nov Toronto Queen Elizabeth Theatre
Fri 20th Nov Toronto Queen Elizabeth Theatre
Sat 21st Nov Toronto Queen Elizabeth Theatre
Tue 24th Nov Calgary Jack Singer Concert Hall
Thu 26th Nov Vancouver Vogue Theatre
Fri 27th Nov Vancouver Vogue Theatre
Sun 29th Nov Victoria Royal Theatre

King Controversial
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Mon., Jul 13, 2015
On this date 12 years ago King Crimson played the Montreux jazz festival. It didn't go well for the band.

Adrian Belew reckoned it was his worse gig in nine years and Robert Fripp summed it up as "An evening of clams, clunkers, recoveries..." With Pat Mastelotto diving into the audience at the end to remonstrate with a persistent photograph, this may well be one of the most controversial gigs the Crims ever played! Find out for yourself by downloading the concert here.

To Text Or Not To Text...
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Mon., Jul 13, 2015
My thanks to jhessell who sent in this article about how one actor handled a member of the audience texting during a performance.

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