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:: Posted by Sid Smith on Tue., Oct 18, 2011

There's an insight into the working methods of Grooveshark in the comments section of the Digital Music News. My thanks to Rockette for sending in the following post. He writes "The row about Grooveshark rumbles on at Digital Music News. Most commentators deplore the companyís lack of ethics, and of course there are the usual dismissive comments from Brave-New-Worlders claiming that the only future for the music biz is for all artists to give away their tracks for free.

This recent anonymous post caught my eye:

I work for Grooveshark. Here is some information from the trenches:

We are assigned a predetermined ammount of weekly uploads to the system and get a small extra bonus if we manage to go above that (not easy).The assignments are assumed as direct orders from the top to the bottom, we donít just volunteer to "enhance" the Grooveshark database.

All search results are monitored and when something is tagged as "not available", it getís queued up to our lists for upload. You have to visualize the database in two general sections: "known" stuff and "undiscovered/indie/underground". The "known" stuff is taken care internally by uploads. Only for the "undiscovered" stuff are the users involved as explained in some posts above. Practically speaking, there is not much need for users to upload a major label album since we already take care of this on a daily basis.

Are the above legal, or ethical? Of course not. Donít reply to give me a lecture. I know. But if the labels and their laywers canít figure out how to stop it, then I donít feel bad for having a job. Itís tough times.

Why am I disclosing all this? Well, I have been here a while and I donít like the attitude that the administration has aquired against the artists. They are the enemy. They are the threat. The things that are said internally about them would make you very very angry. Interns are promised getting a foot in the music industry, only to hear these people cursing and bad mouthing the whole industry all day long, to the point where you wonder what would happen if Grooveshark getís hacked by Anonymous one day and all the emails leak on some torrent or something.

And, to confirm the fears of the members of King Crimson, there is no way in hell you can get your stuff down. They are already tagged since you sent in your first complaint. The administration knows that you canít afford to sue for infringement.

Judging by the way Grooveshark have conducted themselves in their dealings with Declan Colgan and Robert Fripp, this has the ring of truth. In the old days, the enemy of musicians were what Zappa called "the old cigar-chomping guys"; now it appears there is a new foe, somewhat younger but just as devious and unscrupulous.  As Pete Townshend said, "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss".

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Tony Levin's Brum
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Thu., Sep 17, 2015
There's another splendid gallery of photographs taken by Tony Levin now up on his website. 

Suitable Grounds For The Blues
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Thu., Sep 17, 2015
Jakko Jakszyk was seen on national TV last night performing as part of Lenny Henry's blues band on The One Show. As the rest of the Crims headed northwards, Jakko skipped back from Birmingham to London in order to play live with the rest of Henry's band at the start and conclusion of the show. UK viewers can watch it for the next 29 days here. The item promotes a documentary on the blues which Henry is has produced for Sky Arts. There will also be an album, New Millennium Blues, which Jakko not only plays on but has co-written several tracks. The album is due for release 2nd Oct.

Edinburgh Previewed & David's Talks
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Wed., Sep 16, 2015
Ahead of King Crimson's excursion to Edinbugh, the press (in Glasgow!) have provided this handy cut out 'n' keep low-down on the band. The band are playing Usher Hall on September 17th & 18th, a venue which has had all manner cool cats and groovy geezers tread the boards over the years as this memorabilia website dedicated to Usher Hall ably demonstrates.

David Singleton will be giving his final two talks of this tour at Usher Hall. The talks are free but do need to be booked in advance by emailing indeg@dgmhq.com

UK Tour
17th Sep Usher Hall, Edinburgh [SOLD OUT]
18th Sep Usher Hall, Edinburgh

Salford Reviews
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Wed., Sep 16, 2015
Here's a few more reviews of the Crims in Salford. First up, this on Gig Junkies. Then, God Is In The TV. Finally, The Sludgelord serves up this.

Class King Crimson
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Wed., Sep 16, 2015
King Crimson have been nominated as Band Of The Year in the forthcoming Classic Rock Roll of Honour awards. More details can be found here.

Tony's Salford Pix
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Tue., Sep 15, 2015
Here's a link to Tony Levin's latest set of pictures which capture the band in Salford. 

Louder Than Crim
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Tue., Sep 15, 2015
King Crimson's gig on Salford on 11th September has been reviewed over on the Louder Than War website.

King Crimson In Birmingham
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Mon., Sep 14, 2015
King Crimson begin the first of two dates in Birminghamís Symphony Hall today. The last time Crimso were in town was Sunday 28th September, 1973, so itís been a long time coming!

DGM's David Singleton will be there at 6.00 p.m. to give his pre-show talk. The talks are free but do need to be booked in advance by emailing indeg@dgmhq.com

King Crimson will be taking to the stage at 7.30 p.m.

UK Tour

14th Sep Symphony Hall, Birmingham [SOLD OUT]
15th Sep Symphony Hall, Birmingham
17th Sep Usher Hall, Edinburgh [SOLD OUT]
18th Sep Usher Hall, Edinburgh

Distressed & Slightly Limp
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Mon., Sep 14, 2015
Any long term visitor to this website will know that DGMLive has a well established practice - one established by the scrapbook accompanying 1976Ďs, The Young Personís Guide To King Crimson - of highlighting both good and bad reviews of the band. Taking the rough with the smooth is all part of the rich tapestry of a band on tour; something King Crimson has been doing for several decades now.

Christian Von Eggers Doering commented via Facebook on the differences between Andrew Keelingís review of Salford with that of The Guardianís piece on the band in Hackney, which he mistakenly attributes to the Financial Times: ďQuite a contrast when someone who has an understanding of music and a familiarity with KC writes about this tour -- as opposed to the scrivener sent by the FT, who blythely exposed his lack of both."

This comment prompted Robert Fripp to offer his perspective on the matter.

Yes, I agree with the respected writer (and musician) Mr. Doering: it is a joy to be reviewed by someone who engages with music, musicians and performance with magnaminity, generosity, goodwill - and in Dr. Keeling's case, formidable analytical chops.

However, i believe that Mr. Doering is confusing Ludovic Hunter-Tilney of The FT (a writer for whom i have consderable respect) with Mr. Gittings who reviewed for The Guardian. Both were at Hackney Empire.

The most informative part of Mr. Gittings piece lay in the online comments below the piece; which reviewed both the reviewer (unfavourably in the main) and King Crimson (favourably in the main). Vic Garbarini, arguably the finest US music editor of his generation and one of the very few (Mr. Doering is another) who can articulate the mechanics of the creative process, is one of the commentators. Mr. Garbarini channels Rory O'Flute, a famous contributor to the International Times who gave KC its nickname of Crimso in 1969, and writes: "The Return of quintessential 70's Brit-Crit-snark, I wos gettin' right sick o' all them old scribblers recently writing about how dey was all wrong about da Crims back in the day, and wot a great band they now knows dey are and was n' all. Finally, a lad named Ian, willing to be, no, not just a git, but a whole basket o' Gittins".

The reviews of this tour, both in the nationals, online diarising, Facebook, and DGM Guestbooking, have been overwhelmingly positive. Of those I have seen perhaps 95-98% of the comments are almost effusive (and sometimes even effusive). Personal reports and comments, from both innocents who have handed over their hard-earned pay and Persons Of Authority And Recognised Accomplishment And Perhaps Even Very Famous, have been exceptional. And this for a music form ("the most despised since blackface") which until recently could not have its name spoken, particularly in England, let alone played in public.

I have sympathy with the professional writer, seeking to earn a living in difficult and unsupportive times while engaging with creative writing. The Guardian review of KC at the Hackney Empire (as was also The FT) is not an example of honourable application to either professional or creative work. To me, its most striking feature is a parsimony of the spirit. A little too much five-against-one, out of tune, out of time, lazy, no affective engagement, condescending, at least partly pre-recorded, it does no justice to the subject nominally under review, nor to the reviewer, nor to a national which sees itself as part of the quality press. If this is the best writer The Guardian can get for the job, time for tuning-up in the editorial department. This King Crimson is a celebration, characterized by much generosity from audience and between the players. It is a joyful undertaking. The music is fresh, considered, exciting, a lot of fun, and well-played. King Crimson is at play Ė everyone welcome! But for this party, you need to bring more than a limp dick.

Singleton Speaks
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Sun., Sep 13, 2015
DGM's David Singleton has been giving a series of pre-show talks at the KC gigs and we've had a number of folks asking if David's pre-show talks will extend to the Paris and Utrecht shows? Sadly not. David returns to DGM HQ's cloisters at the band's final UK show in Edinburgh.

However, there are still places available for the remaining dates. As you can see by looking at the guestbook, those attending the talks have found them interesting and illuminating. The talks are free but do need to be booked in advance by emailing indeg@dgmhq.com

14th Sep Symphony Hall, Birmingham [SOLD OUT]
15th Sep Symphony Hall, Birmingham
17th Sep Usher Hall, Edinburgh [SOLD OUT]
18th Sep Usher Hall, Edinburgh

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