|:: Posted by Sid Smith on Tue., Oct 18, 2011
There's an insight into the working methods of Grooveshark in the comments section of the Digital Music News. My thanks to Rockette for sending in the following post. He writes "The row about Grooveshark rumbles on at
Digital Music News. Most commentators deplore the
company’s lack of ethics, and of course there are the usual dismissive
comments from Brave-New-Worlders claiming that the only future for the
music biz is for all artists to give away their tracks for free.
This recent anonymous post caught my eye:
I work for Grooveshark. Here is some information from the trenches:
are assigned a predetermined ammount of weekly uploads to the system
and get a small extra bonus if we manage to go above that (not easy).The
assignments are assumed as direct orders from the top to the bottom, we
don’t just volunteer to "enhance" the Grooveshark database.
search results are monitored and when something is tagged as "not
available", it get’s queued up to our lists for upload. You have to
visualize the database in two general sections: "known" stuff and
"undiscovered/indie/underground". The "known" stuff is taken care
internally by uploads. Only for the "undiscovered" stuff are the users
involved as explained in some posts above. Practically speaking, there
is not much need for users to upload a major label album since we
already take care of this on a daily basis.
the above legal, or ethical? Of course not. Don’t reply to give me a
lecture. I know. But if the labels and their laywers can’t figure out
how to stop it, then I don’t feel bad for having a job. It’s tough
am I disclosing all this? Well, I have been here a while and I don’t
like the attitude that the administration has aquired against the
artists. They are the enemy. They are the threat. The things that are
said internally about them would make you very very angry. Interns are
promised getting a foot in the music industry, only to hear these people
cursing and bad mouthing the whole industry all day long, to the point
where you wonder what would happen if Grooveshark get’s hacked by
Anonymous one day and all the emails leak on some torrent or something.
to confirm the fears of the members of King Crimson, there is no way in
hell you can get your stuff down. They are already tagged since you
sent in your first complaint. The administration knows that you can’t
afford to sue for infringement.
Judging by the way
Grooveshark have conducted themselves in their dealings with Declan
Colgan and Robert Fripp, this has the ring of truth. In the old days,
the enemy of musicians were what Zappa called "the old cigar-chomping
guys"; now it appears there is a new foe, somewhat younger but just as
devious and unscrupulous. As Pete Townshend said, "Meet the new boss,
same as the old boss".
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Keeling's Out Of The Blue(s)
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Sun., Apr 26, 2015
Andrew Keeling’s work for soprano sax and piano, Out Of The Blue(s), is being performed at the CCA in Glasgow next Thursday, 30th April. For more details about the programme, check out the McKenzie Sawers video.
Down To A Tee
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Fri., Apr 24, 2015
There are a new range of official King Crimson T-shirts available. Check out the range over at Burning Shed.
Happy Birthday David Cross
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Thu., Apr 23, 2015
Please raise a glass of something convivial in the direction of ex-King Crimson violinist and keyboard player, David Cross, who celebrates his birthday today.
David is holding a very special launch gig for his forthcoming album, Starless Starlight in London next month.
King Crimson on iTunes
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Thu., Apr 23, 2015
There are now eight King Crimson albums available on iTunes.
Recent additions to the catalogue include In The Wake Of Poseidon, Lizard, Islands, and Starless And Bible Black.
All the albums come with bonus tracks, a digital booklet and have been mastered specifically for the digital format. Check out the King Crimson iTunes store here. (link opens iTunes)
Trey's Rising Waters!
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Tue., Apr 21, 2015
We mentioned it a while back but check out Trey's blog about his newest release, The Waters, They Are Rising where he discusses the pricing of his music. You can support Trey and buy the album over on his bandcamp page.
The Vicar in America
:: Posted by DGM on Tue., Apr 21, 2015
We now have definitive dates for David’s speaking engagements on the West Coast in the coming days. They are :
San Jose 23rd April
Street Light Records,
980 S, Bascom Ave,
Sacramento 27th April
Time Tested Books
1114 21st Street
Los Angeles 28th April - David Singleton combined with the first ever Schizoid Social
Next Door Lounge in Hollywood
1154 Highland Ave
Los Angeles CA 90038
RSVP firstname.lastname@example.org to receive a password and have your name added to the guest list.
Seattle 1st of May- David Singleton and Schizoid social
Seattle Creative Arts Centre, LLC
2601 NW Market St Seattle WA 98107
7-9PM RSVP email@example.com
David will be in San Francisco tomorrow (22nd April). The venue has fallen through. But if a group of people have a suggestion for a meeting place, then we are open to suggestions at firstname.lastname@example.org.
Mister Stormy's Monday Selection
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Mon., Apr 20, 2015
Here's something from the In The Wake Of Poseidon sessions - Robert's first few takes at Peace A Theme. Grab it here.
King Crimson Record Store Day
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Sat., Apr 18, 2015
It's Record Store Day and my thanks to Lutz Stahlhofen for alerting me to this arresting image celebrating the occasion.
You can find out more about how Natalie Sharp, aka The Lone Taxidermist set about re-creating this and many other album covers here.
Don't forget that King Crimson has its own Record Store Day related releases.
Available for a limited period of time only these albums represent some
of the most exciting and interesting dates in the Crimson calendar.
Please note these releases are CD only. There’s no extra material on
these new editions so if you already have these as KCCC releases then
you don’t need to buy ’em!
On July 5th, 1969, King Crimson played to upwards of 500,000 people
on a bill topped by The Rolling Stones in Hyde Park, London. It was a
pivotal point for the band. The next evening, King Crimson played their
regular club date - a crammed Marquee Club in the same city. Recorded by
an audience member, the original tape of the concert found its way to
Robert Fripp & DGM many years later. Extensive audio restoration was
applied & though it’s still never going to be a ‘hi-fi’ experience,
as one of the earliest live recordings of the band, it has been a
consistent seller for DGM for many years. Pre-dating the release of “In
The Court Of The Crimson King” by more than three months &
showcasing material from that album, the tape captures the raw power
that had already made Crimson London’s hottest new band. Also included
is the only known recording/performance of ‘Trees’ from October 1969.
While the audio quality of this recording is poor & no amount of
restoration can improve upon that, its rarity earned it a place as a
One of the more pleasing outcomes of the ongoing King Crimson 40th
anniversary releases was the reception & re-evaluation that was
afforded to 1971’s “Islands” album. Long over-shadowed by the live
reputation of the 1969 line-up that preceded it & the 72/74 line-ups
that followed, the band had, up to that point, been
under-appreciated. This soundboard recording, discovered in the DGM
archive in 2012, confirms that the 1971 band could match any King
Crimson line-up before or since for a quality live show. In the middle
of the recording sessions for the “Islands” album, the band returned
to the legendary Marquee Club for two special concerts (quickly
extended to a third night). Taken from the second night, this
recording captures a relaxed performance featuring material from all
three of King Crimson’s released albums & early live recordings of
much of the “Islands” material. This is the only line-up in King
Crimson’s long history that has, to date, performed material from the
first four studio albums. It’s a key recording in the King Crimson
catalogue of live releases.
The reputation of the 1972/74 King Crimson line-ups comes from shows
such as this soundboard recording of the band. Having formed in July of
1972, the band played three nights at the Zoom Club in Frankfurt &
recorded a TV performance for Beat Club Germany in October prior to
embarking on a full UK tour. This was the fourth concert of that tour
& features material from the album that would become “Larks’ Tongues
in Aspic” when recorded the following January, alongside one of the
band’s fiercest (& longest) improvs. This is the best known concert
recording of the short-lived, legendary, quintet line-up.
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