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Grooveshark
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Tue., Oct 18, 2011

There's an insight into the working methods of Grooveshark in the comments section of the Digital Music News. My thanks to Rockette for sending in the following post. He writes "The row about Grooveshark rumbles on at Digital Music News. Most commentators deplore the companyís lack of ethics, and of course there are the usual dismissive comments from Brave-New-Worlders claiming that the only future for the music biz is for all artists to give away their tracks for free.

This recent anonymous post caught my eye:

I work for Grooveshark. Here is some information from the trenches:

We are assigned a predetermined ammount of weekly uploads to the system and get a small extra bonus if we manage to go above that (not easy).The assignments are assumed as direct orders from the top to the bottom, we donít just volunteer to "enhance" the Grooveshark database.

All search results are monitored and when something is tagged as "not available", it getís queued up to our lists for upload. You have to visualize the database in two general sections: "known" stuff and "undiscovered/indie/underground". The "known" stuff is taken care internally by uploads. Only for the "undiscovered" stuff are the users involved as explained in some posts above. Practically speaking, there is not much need for users to upload a major label album since we already take care of this on a daily basis.

Are the above legal, or ethical? Of course not. Donít reply to give me a lecture. I know. But if the labels and their laywers canít figure out how to stop it, then I donít feel bad for having a job. Itís tough times.

Why am I disclosing all this? Well, I have been here a while and I donít like the attitude that the administration has aquired against the artists. They are the enemy. They are the threat. The things that are said internally about them would make you very very angry. Interns are promised getting a foot in the music industry, only to hear these people cursing and bad mouthing the whole industry all day long, to the point where you wonder what would happen if Grooveshark getís hacked by Anonymous one day and all the emails leak on some torrent or something.

And, to confirm the fears of the members of King Crimson, there is no way in hell you can get your stuff down. They are already tagged since you sent in your first complaint. The administration knows that you canít afford to sue for infringement.

Judging by the way Grooveshark have conducted themselves in their dealings with Declan Colgan and Robert Fripp, this has the ring of truth. In the old days, the enemy of musicians were what Zappa called "the old cigar-chomping guys"; now it appears there is a new foe, somewhat younger but just as devious and unscrupulous.  As Pete Townshend said, "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss".


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At A Distance
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Tue., Feb 4, 2014
There's a Guitar Circle Of Europe Spring 2014 Preparation - AAD (At-A-Distance) Course happening on Monday, February 17th to Friday, April 18th, 2014

This Course is recommended as a preparation for the upcoming OCG Special Performance Projects, particularly the OCG VIII in Italy next Spring.

If you wish to participate please send your Application Letter to HernŠn NuŮez: hnunez@t-online.de, also contact him directly if you have any questions about these courses.

Application Letters for the AAD please include a recent photo (file size should be no more than 1Mb).

Those who wish to participate in both courses can apply to a special discount, ask for this if needed, please. Find out more details here.

The Orchestra Of Crafty Guitarists VIII - Special Performance Project
Tuesday 29th of April to Monday 5th of May, 2014, Casa Stella Maris, Caorle, Italy. More details here.


The Sound Of A Tree Falling Is Not Ka-ching
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Tue., Feb 4, 2014
Terre Roche, who made such an important contribution to Robert Fripp's solo album, Exposure, has written about a thoughtful piece on the experience of recording her own solo outing here. 


Dime Novels
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Mon., Feb 3, 2014
That's the name of a new album Marco Machera which features contributions from Pat Mastelotto, Tony Levin and Markus Reuter. Find out more about the album here. 


Robert's In 2014
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Tue., Jan 28, 2014
Robert's newly updated diary takes the Old Goat into 2014 and he's practising King Crimson repertoire.


Adrian Interview
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Tue., Jan 28, 2014
There's a lengthy interview with Adrian Belew over at the Dutch Progressive Rock Pages website. 


Under The Influence
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Tue., Jan 28, 2014
Chicago metal band Murmur have a new album which contains a cover of LTIA Pt2. You can check out the album and their take on the mighty Crim here. 


Mister Stormy's Monday Selection
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Mon., Jan 27, 2014
How would you like to hear a previously unreleased 17 minute extract from The Power To Believe writing sessions? You would? Well, thanks to Mister Stormy, you jolly well can. 


Tony Talking
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Fri., Jan 24, 2014
Here's an interview with Tony Levin discussing his work. 


Belew Talks Crim
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Tue., Jan 21, 2014
"We all have new music we're making, so it's not like we're being nostalgic here - we just want to keep this brand of Crimson music alive, and play it for a lot of people who remember it, and a lot of people who never got a chance to see and hear it!" Adrian Belew talks about the Crimson ProjeKCt's personnel and motivation in this new interview.  


Slow Music Returns
:: Posted by Sid Smith on Tue., Jan 21, 2014
Slow Music, featuring Bill Rieflin, Pete Buck, Matt Chamberlin, Fred Challenor and Robert Fripp, return to active duty in April. The improvising group play two nights in Seattle alongside The Humans. You can book tickets here.  


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