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:: Posted by emory0 on October 17, 2014
"I also was at that concert, and while Toolís fans were indeed attentive and open for the Tool set, not so much for the opening set by Fantomas, who I was there to see as much as (if not more than) Tool. Fantomas was booed, ignored, catcalled with derision--you know the drill. Major bummer."
I vaguely remember that, though we arrived deep into the warmup bandís set. Though I donít remember actual booing (though I believe you), I do remember the reception not being particularly enthusiastic. Part of the blame, however, rests with the horrendous acoustics there in the Garden: You could hear the concrete resonating in a really ugly way to a random subset of frequencies. Not a venue in which to discover a new band. (It was the first and last concert Iíve ever seen at the Garden.)
On the other hand, I heard that the Toolfans received another warmup band warmly, though I remember Belew describing walking behind some Tool fans after one of the gigs and hearing one of them say that "those other guys were good too", the other guys being King Crimson.
Tool (and Tool fans) at Madison Square Garden
:: Posted by revroth on October 17, 2014
I also was at that concert, and while Toolís fans were indeed attentive and open for the Tool set, not so much for the opening set by Fantomas, who I was there to see as much as (if not more than) Tool. Fantomas was booed, ignored, catcalled with derision--you know the drill. Major bummer.
:: Posted by KantspelldiKc on October 17, 2014
As an audient October 4th I will kick down the one visual that should have been recorded, Melís happiness
:: Posted by bloggulator on October 17, 2014
The UK is definitely a loss maker, unless youíre a corporate stadium/arena act and can sell out a series of successive shows in a large venue like Londonís 20,000 seat O2, where the fans do the "touring" and the band does the residency. This saves on many expenses, and with the sound system, bandís onstage equipment, lights and other technical paraphernalia remaining in one place, consistency and predictability becomes an added bonus - with the less potential for things to go wrong on account of not having to set up and break down and travel every day.
Then, thereís an other issue - peculiar to (a portion of) the UK music media: Any band which doesnít (a) conform to a specific brand of youth culture, (b) does not express overt sexuality, (c) isnít "flavor of the minute", (d) has (individually and collectively) supreme musical ability, (e) takes musical risks and presents challenges to the audience and (f) doesnít neatly fit in marketing pigeon-holes/genres - will routinely get panned and pilloried from here to the Yangtze river and back by the UK music press. I think weíre all aware of one band that fits all the conditions necessary for an arbitrary slagging-off by (most) UK music reviewers! Who needs to read puerile, dopey negative commentary after a lot of hard work - commentary which will reach more readers than attended the show?
:: Posted by djangobole on October 17, 2014
can anyone direct me to good quality live recordings of Red era Crimson, I have been trolling through the downloads but could do with being pointed in the right direction.
You'll find 18 concerts by the band in 1974 here if that helps.
:: Posted by emory0 on October 17, 2014
"incidentally, Iíve never seen a more engaged, respectful & attentive young audience (at a rock concert) in my lifeóin that sense, Tool fans were simply remarkable"
A whole bunch of years ago (maybe 14 or so?) my brothers dragged me to see Tool at Madison Square Garden, where I experienced the exact same: Somehow, in that vast space (with terrible acoustics), the Tool fans were actually PAYING ATTENTION and (so it seemed to me) LISTENING. Indeed, I nudged one of my brothers and pointed towards the vast crowd and we were astonished to see so many people really locked in to the music. It was amazing.
And since this was after the joint Tool/Crimson tour, while the DJ was playing warmup music I shouted CRIMSON! and shortly thereafter they played some joint Fripp/tool music (I think it was Frippertronics with the Tool guitarist and bassist.)
So Tool and Tool fans have my utmost respect. They are a great band with great fans, arguably better than us Crimhead rabble.
:: Posted by KramNamloc on October 17, 2014
FWIW, the performance at the Moore in Seattle was the first time I did not need earplugs for KC.
Sadly, and likely due to the Mooreís balconies, the sound was rather muddy. Superb gig nonetheless.
Beyond satisfied, in complete awe.
Thank you KC8!
Long live the King!
:: Posted by AndrewJohn on October 17, 2014
The good fairy worked the magic for me to receive this treasure around noon today.
Itís just so so good to revisit the GC mix of Amsterdam...itís been locked in the memory bank since the BBC aired the show and I inexpertly taped it.. yes just over 40years ago. Itís like....well you know.
My 17yr old daughter now is at a similar stage as I was then.......so to see the way now but still not know and yet maintain a real buzz over KC has been a ever present and unavoidable labour of love.
Past, present and future..........sounds like now to me.
:: Posted by thecapitolcardiff1971 on October 17, 2014
Concerning the recent debate why British bands donít play England anymore. Could I broaden the issue and ask why donít British bands play Wales at all? The best concert I have ever witnessed was King Crimsonís date at Cardiff (UK) in October 1971. I hope against hope that KC8 will visit Cardiff in 2015.
Re: A special relationship
:: Posted by gasmrv on October 17, 2014
SnakeCained wrote: "We do however have a strict 85db limit on the sound level, which is funny as I do a bit of classical recording and a symphony orchestra can easily sail pass 105db+."
I saw Tool at the Brixton Academy in London in 2001 (or was it 2002?) and the sound level was easily way, waaaay past 85db ó donít know if such sound regulations were in place back then, but the sound was so incredibly loud, that I had to literally walk out about 15 minutes into the concertóa real shame as I think, and thought at the time, Lateralus is an absolutely brilliant album. (incidentally, Iíve never seen a more engaged, respectful & attentive young audience (at a rock concert) in my lifeóin that sense, Tool fans were simply remarkable)
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