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Toronto 2015
:: Posted by hmozel on March 22, 2016

Has Toronto 2015 started shipping yet? I guess Iím like a kid anticipating Christmas!

RE: Setlist Hopes
:: Posted by pyroseed13 on March 21, 2016

Living in the states, I will not have an opportunity next fall to see the Crim back an action. If I could, here is what I would like to see:

1. Cirkus. I imagine this would sound very strong with this incarnation of the band. I could see the three drummers composing something interesting for this piece.

2. Cat Food. Ok, so probably no piano in this version, but I could see Jakko and Robert coming up with some interesting guitar phrases for this, and Mel Collins sax would fit nicely here.

3. Fallen Angel. I would like to see this song make its live debut. The original features some guitar overdubs, so it would work for two guitarists.

4. The Great Deceiver. Much like Cirkus, I could envision the drummers creating interesting parts for this. I can see Fripp and Jakko having some nice interplay here as well.

5. Lament. Same comments as for The Great Deceiver.

:: Posted by DevlinC on March 21, 2016

And just to quickly add to my previous post, the version of Sailorís Tale from the new release might just about be the definitive version. Absolutely astonishing.

Infamy at last...
:: Posted by DevlinC on March 21, 2016

Well almost.

Toronto arrived today. Up to Pictures of a City now but damn, this is a smoking hot mix. Far beyond Orpheum already, much more representative of the shows I saw. Looking forward to Red, the only track I didnít hear for myself in London & Brighton.

In the booklet, David Singleton refers to Frippís diary between 16th-19th of October 2007 as being "particularly instructive and amusing". Those dates sounded familiar so I went and had a look and sure enough, itís the period where Robert spent 3 evenings dissecting some posts I made on the subject of concert photography. Iím not altogether surprised these interactions have stuck in his and Davidís minds given it was possibly Robertís most exhaustive and exhausting public debate on the matter before or since, but I am surprised to see them referenced such a long time later.

I havenít read them since the time so while listening to the show, I went over them again. It wasnít easy - I was 22, just about to start a sound engineering course after about 4 aimless years, full of opinions as young men are but also quite bitter and angry. Itís never easy to look back on your youthful self, particularly when what youíre looking back on is having one of your musical heroes call you witless, selfish, "Clueless and Slightly Slack", dopey, basement dweller ... but read them I did.

I wonít go on and on, Iím sure no one cares - I have at least learnt that much in the 9 years since. David is right to say that they are highly instructive posts and give you a very good sense of who Robert Fripp is as both a person and a performer and the lens through which he views the world. Perhaps they do the same for me.

All the best to you Robert. Looking forward to your upcoming concerts (where I will, as always, not be using a camera).

Toronto PDF
:: Posted by emmapeelfanclub on March 21, 2016

To reply to jacethecrowlís question about the Toronto pdf booklet for those of us who purchased the download, just log in to your DGM Live account, check your downloads page and you should see it is now available in the cover art section... I discovered it by pure chance a few days ago. Has interesting essays by Declan Colgan and David Singleton.

2016 Setlist Hopes?
:: Posted by DevlinC on March 20, 2016

Hello Guestbook,

Given that 2015ís Crimson concerts all shared the same basic setlist - with only VROOOM, Red, Level Five and a late addition of Peace being the "wildcards" - it occurs to me that itís very likely 2016 will drop some and add others. So on the offchance that it affects the outcome, what are everyoneís top picks? For the sake of brevity, lets say a top 3 with a brief explanation of why. Iím discounting the possibility of new material as - given Rieflin is set to return in 2017 - it would be unusual to premier material without one of the composers present, or to write some with a temporary member.

1) Sartori In Tangier - With what appears to be a gentlemanís agreement that Belew material will not be performed by the new Crimson (and where it is, only instrumentals or adaptations), Levinís major contributions to Crimson are essentially blacklisted, with this one exception.

2) The Night Watch - Jakkoís voice is well suited to ballads like this. Would be interesting to see violin parts adapted for Levin to take a solo on the upright bass too.

3) Dangerous Curves - Given this is a pretty straightforward groove, it would give another opportunity for some drum interplay as well as injecting some more recent Crimson into proceedings.

Father Bill
:: Posted by brotherbeavis on March 19, 2016

Dear Cousin David S.,

Seeing the Crim live at the Moore in Seattle in 2014 was one of the greatest single concert experiences of my 53 years of life, subjectively only matched by a Seattle date with the other King, B.B.

Of Father Bill, I say this: I did not then and do not now think his central placement on stage was an accident, and noted on numerous occasions percussive examples of the "whizzing" phenomenon that Uncle Bob has written about in describing GC courses. Pulses would start with Friar Pat or Monsignor Gavin, pass across Father Bill to the other, and back, sometimes going both directions at once. "Red," in particular, had a lot of this.

The modest presence of Billís tiny Sears and Roebuck jazz kit in between Patís mad metallurgist sculpture garden and Gavinís sleek Stealth Fighter Meets Robocop science fiction batterie was also, I believe, no accident. The essence of the instrument between extreme iterations, so to speak.

To sum up, I want to be adult about this, so I will just say that anyone who did not think of good Father Bill as an essential "Element" of King Crimson is a big fat poopyhead.

You are doing heroic work, sir, do please carry on.


Cousin Dave Wilkins

Gavin & Stacey
:: Posted by chrvau on March 19, 2016

I, for one, have no worries about the prospect of Gavin and Stacey (and Pat) on drums this summer. I have seem Jeremy play a few times in a couple of different extremes (the Royal Albert Hall with Ryan Adams in one of the Teenage Cancer Trust Shows and then in a much more intimate show at the new Marquee, where his rhythm partner was none other than the late, great Chris Squire. It was the Syn gig in c2005. He was very impressive that night with his bother Paul on guitar and his playing on the Syndestructible album should soothe any fears. Chill out, folks. 

Oh of course pajamas
:: Posted by HarrySpade on March 18, 2016

"if Crimson played Iíd actually buy a ticket and attend in pajamas."

Absolutely that would be the way to see King Crimson, preferably the kind with the padded feet attached. Sadly, I could find no pajamas in the Inner Knot store. Iím sure thereís a whole market waiting to be exploited. Just remember guys, emory0 thought of it first.

More King Crimson music on iTunes
:: Posted by rtkcfan on March 18, 2016

Hi all.

It looks like as of today, iTunes now has all King Crimson albums from 1980 and onwards.
Can anyone confirm if "Beat" and "Three of a Perfect Pair" are the original mixes or the (unreleased) Steven Wilson remixes?
It sounds like the former to me, but I cannot be 100% sure.

Also, the new Toronto live album is available from iTunes now as well.

These are the original mixes and not the SW mixes

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