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Overly serious leisure time?
:: Posted by emory0 on July 15, 2016
"after all itís only leisure time, isnít it?"
Yeah, thatís a good point I donít really know how to address.
In Mark Saltzmanís "Iron and Silk" he describes playing cello at a local event in China, and as he played people pretty much ignored him and ate, played badminton, talked and (as I remember) cooked food. When he stopped (ie, because he thought they werenít listening), a lot of people stopped what they were doing and looked to see why heíd stopped. They then encouraged him to continue, as "everyoneís having a really nice time".
So perhaps I was being overly judgmental about an audience that was "enjoying" music in a way I usually canít. On the other hand, thereís a part of me that insists the Dylan concert was inherently different from the Chinese mode. I really donít know. One difference is that, in Saltzmanís case, no one was there to hear "Mark Salzman". They just knew a westerner with a weird western instrument was playing, so they carried on being fully Chinese. The Dylan audience, on the other hand, had a nowhere-ish feeling: They werenít really listening but they also werenít really connecting with each other either.
Or maybe Iím just old: "You damn kids get off my lawn."
after all it's only leisure time, isn't it?
:: Posted by syncopatico on July 14, 2016
"Aside from that, people were drinking, eating and talking during the slow parts, and cheering loudly for songs they knew."
"Music-making still performs the normal functions: background noise for people eating and talking and drinking and smoking; thatís all right by us, donít think that weíre complaining, after all itís only leisure time, isnít it?" -- Robert Wyatt (Moon In June: BBC, 1969)
Radical Action - new release
:: Posted by EleKtriK_Udi on July 14, 2016
Will there be a Japanese version of the new (limited edition) Radical Action release?
In any case, great news! canít wait to hear/see it!
:: Posted by emory0 on July 14, 2016
Saw Bob Dylan last week, a few hundred yards from my house in Queens. As we were herded through the gates, men with megaphones told us that no photography would be permitted.
During the first half of the performance venue security would stop people from taking photos, etc..., though some people persisted, getting several warnings. The dude-half of the couple sitting next to me took some flash photos, and I told the guy the flash was distracting. And that was in itself distracting, because you never know if the guy will persist and I have to call security and then, should he get really mad at me, find I have to fight the dude.
Aside from that, people were drinking, eating and talking during the slow parts, and cheering loudly for songs they knew. In other words, the audience for the most part sucked, and acted like they were at a sporting event. But Dylan and the band persisted in playing a set containing a variety of mostly newer songs, some Sinatra covers, and a couple of older songs. It was by no means a "greatest hits" nostalgia show. This made the photography even less appropriate in my mind, but then again I felt like a lot of people were there so that they could say they had seen Bob Dylan. And thatís a strange state of affairs, is it not? "We want to see you sing all your famous old songs, so how dare you force us to listen to all this other crap and treat you like an actual contemporary performer."
Iím wondering whether a passing grade on a questionnaire should be required before tickets are released: "Name your 3 favorite Bob Dylan Songs that appeared on albums after 1990."
:: Posted by _D_S_J_R_ on July 13, 2016
I just wanted to say thank you to all who make this site possible and for the wonderful and highly challenging music Iím discovering and re-discovering from some years away and in the case of the Soundscapes, intense timeless and wonderful music I never knew existed until very recently. I feel RFís diary has helped enormously with regards to focus - I canít explain it further - and hope that when time and energy permits, heíll share some more of his and Tís life as it is now, with us, although I appreciate the very heavy schedule set for touring. Belated sincere condolences on Willyfredís passing - I felt I knew him personally and in some way shared his obvious joy in the pictures taken when he was with his prime care-givers. Thanks again and best wishes to T too, as Iíve re-discovered her early music too recently with much fondness and wonderful memories. Again, little to no knowledge as yet about her more recent work to be discovered and enjoyed, but Iím very much looking forward to hearing it...
:: Posted by Bakullama on July 10, 2016
I have an idea for folks who insist on viewing and even filming a concert through their phones. The venue can set up a separate room with comfortable chairs where the phone-happy concertgoer can have the show streamed to his / her phone or device from one camera placed in the front row of the venue.
The phone-happy concertgoer will be able to zoom, collect still photos, etc, while still having the delightful privilege of hearing the show from the 1/2 inch speaker on his phone.... This will effectively separate phone users and the rest of us who want to see a show the old fashioned way. Of course there should be a reasonable charge for this service.
Call it the "KC by phone" option. What a great service to offer the phonie-s.
To prevent bootlegging, just toss in a KC t-shirt advertisement every 4 minutes
P J Crook
:: Posted by acestarchild on July 09, 2016
I see that Gloucester City Museum are hosting an exhibition of P J Crookís (friend of Fripp and Toyah whose work graces the top of this page) from 2nd July 2016 to 24th September 2016. Entry to the museum is £5. I havenít seen what it is yet but this is what it says about it. "íTime is Time was Timeís Futureí
Fascinated by the notion of time, artist PJ Crook looks at similarities between her own work, and works within the Museum of Gloucester collection. ďAlthough time changes most things, that which inspires the artist often recurs through the generations. So the Museum of Gloucester kindly allowed me into their fascinating picture stores to select pieces that found echoes in my work.Ē
2nd July - 24th September
The City Gallery, Museum of Gloucester"
Copy and paste the links
Hyde Park Concert,1969
:: Posted by dalehaskell on July 06, 2016
Was this the same event where Mick Farren and members of The Deviants attempted to disrupt King crimsonís performance? If so,any memories of that?
Moving On from
:: Posted by Progrockdude on June 29, 2016
I totally agree with the guy (or second guy) below me. Having a no-phone zone at concerts should at least be a choice to the audience, and separate the concerts that have it and the others that donít. A lot of us kind of wish there was less attention through the phones at any concert, but at this rate, we might as well just try to combat it for people who feel like it IS a concern and not the others. Nothing more, nothing less.
:: Posted by albemuth on June 28, 2016
Concert behavior depends a great deal on the kind of ritual the band and audience seek together. I have had a good time at KC shows just sitting quietly and marveling. But I have also had rewarding evenings at Kanye West shows, jumping around, yelling the lyrics, and taking pictures with my phone. It would make no sense to tell the congregation of a gospel church to stop standing up, dancing, yelling, and singing along with the band. Thatís the whole point of that kind of event. And as for the idea that one kind of ritual is objectively better than another, well, good luck with that!
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