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Ravenous energy vampires are beating on your door
:: Posted by albemuth on October 22, 2014
I do not want to offend anyone on the dear-old DGM board, but is it not possible to wait a little while before re-listening to the shows? Or if you have waited some number of years or decades, isn’t six months an easy jail sentence? Aren’t there enough other artists coming out with new material? And don’t get me started on all those KC box sets.
People were recording those recent shows?! As my kids used to say "Big duh!" And, as I like to say, "who cares?" This is 2014, not 1974. Why go after a bootleg now? You will only spoil your memory-still-green with a not-so-good recording. Wait a little while and you will get the usual top-drawer DGM product!
:: Posted by Rockette on October 22, 2014
>The nature of download culture is that you can essentially have whatever you want whenever you want.
>If I can get a great quality audio right from the source, I’m fine paying some money, and it will definitely keep me from hunting down bootlegs. But, this has to happen sooner rather than later.
>I waited a few days into the tour. With no live bootleg on the horizon, I was unable to contain my excitement and immediately began looking for bootlegs
>My reward is having to wait 6 months.
>I think I and probably a few other drooling fans would like some more insight as to why we’re being asked for patience from a site whose purpose is to make live shows available in a very on-demand and global fashion.
>What I am is someone who had an amazing time on this last tour and wants to enjoy it over and over and over and over on my ride in to work.
Quite a wish list, with some demands sounding almost like veiled threats. I think the moral here is, sometimes you can’t get what you want!
:: Posted by Valhalla on October 22, 2014
’AcousticPhenomena’ have you ever heard the phrase, ’patience is a virtue’, or if you have, do you understand it? One of the very negative traits of this ’modern’ world is the selfish attitude of ’give it to me now, I want it now’. What do you ’want’, anything tossed out from any night of the tour? Who cares about the ’quality’ or quantity of a recording? And if it is not of decent quality or one doesn’t like it, then simply throw it out & demand more! I am relieved that a live recording, if it surfaces, will be of a selected value. Not something tossed out there for the ravenous few in this world, who simply ’cannot wait’!
Who can tell, there may not be any live recordings made available, now that would be a boil over for some ’fans’, one would think! Myself, I would much prefer to wait & get something of quality, hopefully, but if not, so be it!
Where is Robert ?
:: Posted by llampcat on October 22, 2014
Two weeeks whitout news, no diaries, no touring
With only a couple of days break after the US tour, Robert then flew to Argentina to undertake work with the South American Guitar Circle. As we speak, he is most likely in an airport terminal many miles from home.
:: Posted by AcousticPhenomena on October 22, 2014
I think that everyone is very excited to get their hands on a KC2014 live show download. I am very saddened that it is going to take DGM until spring 2015 to make something available. I’m sure they have something special in mind, but for me this is a huge missed opportunity.
The nature of download culture is that you can essentially have whatever you want whenever you want. When KC2008 live download came out about 3 DAYS into the tour, before they could even get out album art, this was immensely satisfying, and to me a much better alternative to bootlegs. If I can get a great quality audio right from the source, I’m fine paying some money, and it will definitely keep me from hunting down bootlegs. But, this has to happen sooner rather than later.
King Crimson: Your fan base is ravenous, and you didn’t even tour around to give everyone a chance to hear it. I understand why, but given the extremely aggressive anti-bootleg stance of DGM, I think the sensible move would be to satisfy your clever fans with an up front download.
For me, I waited a few days into the tour. With no live bootleg on the horizon, I was unable to contain my excitement and immediately began looking for bootlegs, of which there was not a short supply, although it looked like the DGM team was hard at work corking all the leaks. In the end I decided that I would prefer to respect Robert’s wishes, a man I have never met in person, and refrained from downloading any boots. My reward is having to wait 6 months.
Is DGM concerned about flooding the market in light of the R2R and Starless box sets? I can’t imagine this is the case. Also, if not 2014, why not another 2008 show? Sex, Sleep, Eat, Drink, Dream and Walking on Air have not yet been released to the general public.
While it wasn’t the news I wanted to hear, I was very happy that Sid took the time to address this elephant in the room, and I wasn’t left wondering each day whether or not anything was going to surface. And while it looks like my only choice is to sit tight, I think I and probably a few other drooling fans would like some more insight as to why we’re being asked for patience from a site whose purpose is to make live shows available in a very on-demand and global fashion.
I’m not trying to call anyone a jerk, or to make anyone angry. What I am is someone who had an amazing time on this last tour and wants to enjoy it over and over and over and over on my ride in to work. ASAP Please.
:: Posted by Bakullama on October 22, 2014
Looking forward to the day when the RED with back cover image T -shirt will be re-stocked. My old one has seen its last days unfortunately. As it faded to a dark grey from its original black, it just looked and felt better and better.
turntables / wall plaques 2
:: Posted by Brutus on October 22, 2014
:: Posted by nighthealer on October 21, 2014 The splendid turntables have given me a idea for some merchandise. How about wall plaques of the Discipline & LTIA covers, about 12" in diameter? I would definitely buy them!
Hi there, I am Max, the author (together with my wife Sam) of the two turntables. I have always been fascinated by logos in general and that is one of the reasons I have chosen those two covers for our turntable projeKCts. For the LTIA one I decided for a "professional" approach when it was time to create the mat; so I asked a company to print the logo on a plastic material called Forex (used for posters, plaques, etc.). Forex is quite rigid but can be easily cut. I ordered two copies of the digital print (around 35 euros for both) and I think I will use the second one for a wall clock. This could be another idea for the DGM merchandise area.
Starless Box Set
:: Posted by kevineden on October 22, 2014
Ordered mine from Spin in Newcastle (cheapest online) and it arrived yesterday.
My ears are thrumming and buzzing at the gloriousness of it. A feast for the eyes too
Starless Box Set
:: Posted by DanAnderson on October 21, 2014
Have all the Starless box sets been mailed out? I am eagerly awaiting mine to arrive (Gresham, Oregon).
Hi there Dan,
It all depends on who you ordered it from. If you went via Inner Knot or another US based retailer then it'll be another week or so as the stock, which is shipping from Europe, has to clear customs,etc. Rest assured your American-based retailer is very keen to ship your order. If you bought it from Burning Shed or another European-based retailer then it's arrival is imminent.
:: Posted by Mikhail664 on October 21, 2014
I don’t know if RF remembers me but I joined around 2007 when I heard crim and kept nagging RF to rejoin the band and stop writing diaries to which I got a lot of sarcastic responses by him. The band rejoined in 2008 to play a few shows which I was most eager to see but could not go to as I lived up in Canada. Well its 2014 and I decided to save the money and drive down to see them in Albany.
It felt stupid driving six hours just to see a band but on the way back I couldnt have been more content. I was pissed at the decision for excluding Belew and brining back horns, it felt like such as step back as I really thought the guitar only approach was a step forward in Crims music. Also I wasn’t a big fan of Jakko, sure he was talented didn’t think he was Crim material as Adrian Belew is one of the few few few musicians who can transcend generations, from Bowie to Zappa to NIN and Porcupine Tree.
Again Fripp proved me wrong with his choice and it made perfect sense seeing the band live, this show never felt like a regurgitation of hits or trying to be hip and young again as KC has always managed to stay relevant. These shows felt like a celebration of KC’s music and its philosophy from the old from the new, couldn’t have asked for a more perfect and varied setlist, although it would have been interesting to see a few more renditions of 80s and 90s material. Regardless I felt privileged to hear One More Red Nightmare and Starless being played live infront of audiences for the first time and in over 40 years respectively. Both Jakko and Mel were perfect, I feared they would take over the music to much but like everyone in the band they were only in service to the music. Horns and flutes added nice touches to THE Construkction of Light. Although the Red drumbeat and flute in the solo did not strike as big of a chord to me. Jakko proved to be a capable guitarist doing hte fast runs on LTPA and thank god he didn’t sing Adrian’s part as it doesn’t suit his personality, as a lot of Kcrim material doesn’t suit Ade’s American demeanor.
Can’t thank Fripp enought for this moment, you can go back to writing your boring diaries and winning lawsuits again :)
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