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Website Design
:: Posted by emmapeelfanclub on August 15, 2015

Interesting thoughts on the DGM website design. Itís proved to be perfectly functional, easy on the eye and not a browser hog like a few that have been pointed out. Iím sure the ever busy David Singleton did say earlier this year in his diary that work was planned on a facelift of the site but like others I hope and trust it wonít be too elaborate or overtly flashy. I agree that with the current design, "centering" the page would be good, but otherwise, I have zero qualms or problems with it.

DGM Live, like the grand beast that is King Crimson has itís way of doing things.

And the countdown gets ever closer to the 2015 tour. Iíll be seeing both shows in Salford and Iím sure it will be an experience Iíll never forget, not to mention one Iíll feel privileged to witness in the moment.

One More Web Nightmare
:: Posted by PPmINTY on August 15, 2015

I agree with the gentleman who cited the Yes website and others as being nightmares that ítake forever to loadí. That is a problem with websites that try to keep up with the times and insist on themselves with all the latest HTML5 and dynamic CSS coding. They DO look flashy and impressive on some folksí browsers... but they slow down most others (and, by the way, I hate those windows that swish horizontally. They might be fun for five minutes on tablets and phones, but therein lies the ínightmareí on a mouseíníkeys desktop workstation. No one designs pages to FIT THE SCREEN anymore!).
I donít want to sound like some sort of cyber-Luddite, but please donít go THAT road. Keep it simple and informative. I like to come to DGM Live for reliable information, not to see the web designers showing off their new tricks. Having said all that, this site IS a tad archaic from an HTMLjockeyís point of view, being mainly based on nested tables for its structure.


The ONLY things I would change:-

- shift the main ícontainerí table so that it does center on the browser window instead of being to the left of the screen. (I wrote a simple STYLISH script to do this on my own Firefox. It is a lot easier on the eye!)

- include navigation buttons at the BOTTOM of pages as well as at the TOP. When browsing through the diaries and gig pages, when one reaches the foot of the page, it has become necessary to scroll all the way back to the top in order to use the ípreviousí/ínextí buttons.

...and thatís it! Really.

Hugh Muir is not a loud...
:: Posted by davidly on August 15, 2015

A: Itís just like my pa always told me, "If itís broke, donít fix it."
B: Donít you mean, "If it *ainít* broke, donít fix it"?
A: He used to say that, too.

2000 Crim Videos
:: Posted by JBeerLTIA on August 15, 2015

I would just like to say thank you so much for releasing these ConstruKction-era videos. They are absolutely fantastic and are giving me a whole new look at the brilliance of the double duo. I didnít get to catch them the first time around since I was a wee lad, completely unaware of the beast that play before me.

Re; Website
:: Posted by Valhalla on August 14, 2015

I have always enjoyed this site, for it is all that is needed for my perusing of all things Crim. There is nothing worse in the internet world, than over the top, glitzy, high definition unnecessary images & the like! Many people in this ítechnologicalí world, do not have super fast internet speed, so the simpler the site, the more appreciated it is! A bit like Crimsonís music, a couple of cheap chords & a simple drum beat, will suffice!  I also agree with mikefrost in regards to Yesí website, a perfect example of wasted time & space!  

RE: Crumbled Fingers
:: Posted by mikefrost on August 14, 2015

Yes are my favorite band but the website is a fucking nightmare. It takes half an hour to load and you canít get to the relevant things for all the hype and plugging of various releases and tour. The brilliance of DGM is how simple it is. Please donít change anything.

On screen real estate
:: Posted by CrumbledFingers on August 14, 2015

Sorry if I touched a nerve about the websiteís look and feel. To rogadaire, I may be in need of new spectacles but the site looks about the same today as always. For reference, hereís a screenshot of what it looks like for me:


All Iím saying is that itís at least fair to ask, in a spirit of goodwill and constructive criticism: why is King Crimsonís official website mostly a blank white screen?

Not that itís any indication of what DGMlive should do, but it seems as though KC/RFís contemporaries are lately updating their designs. The "parallax" scrolling thing looks to be the latest bandwagon.


I donít like all of these, but Tullís page is pretty damn gorgeous.

And to simkin_edenís point about monitors, perhaps "cinematic widescreen" was not the correct term. What I meant was that computer displays these days are decidedly rectangular, that is wider than they are tall, when in the early days of the internet they were more square.

I have to agree with rogadaire on the guestbook, now that I think of it. Fan pages can deal with the forum stuff and the accompanying logistics. This guestbook is lean and thatís how it should stay.

My King(crimson)dom for a horse
:: Posted by david55 on August 14, 2015

OK, time to own up. Which one of you at dgm reads the Daily Star?

Website issues
:: Posted by rogadaire on August 14, 2015

I donít know if this has come about as a prompt response to CrumbledFingersí comments on the website design, but I can report that today the DGM content takes up slightly more than half the screen on the left hand side of my monitor. Yesterday it did not. So, progress!

I liked the description of the Guestbook as being like a bed-and-breakfast guestbook, and it occurred to me that that is also how I like the Guestbook!  When we enter the hallowed portals of DGM, it seems to me that this is rather like entering someoneís house. We are welcome guests - indeed some of us are helping with the maintenance costs so it seems only reasonable that we should be allowed to roam about and comment on the dťcor. But we are not being invited to engage in furious debate or let off steam because KC didnít come to our town or our favourite song isnít on the set list (nothing stopping us from engaging in such talk, nonetheless). I am an advocate of the GB and I am glad that it was reprieved only recently.  But I donít think it needs to be like the many fan-led forums that I have seen.  A bed-and-breakfast guestbook sounds about right.  The morning tea was very nice thank you and the pillows were also nice and plump.

Good to see David is keeping very busy, but still finding time to update his diary. I look forward to hearing his pre-concert talk in London and Manchester!   


if it's not too late
:: Posted by Undisciplined on August 13, 2015

Seeing as though Beat & Three of a Perfect Pair are delayed, this might still be a good time to offer a suggestion. It would certainly seem appropriate (if possible) to include the "Bruford and the Beat" video as bonus material on Beat!

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