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:: Posted by evilbastard on December 17, 2013
Once again King Crimson gets the shaft. Inducting Nirvana before King Crimson.
:: Posted by emory0 on December 16, 2013
"the whole deal with music is the sound, right?"
Another issue is that a lot of those older halls were never built for amplified rock music. So even in good halls there can be not-so-good-sound. Here in New York I’m familiar enough with some of the medium-sized halls that I try to purchase my ticket for seats where I know the sound will be better.
For instance, in Town Hall (where countless Jazz greats have played back in the day), the overhanging balcony seems to attenuate bass sounds quite a bit if you’re sitting on the ground floor towards the rear. So I either sit in the balcony or further out in front (ie, not under the balcony).
Nothing worse than crappy sound with rock music, though. Everything seems to get turned into trebly and harsh percussion, kind of like CD sound for its first few decades. You can even sometimes hear that the playing and music is good, but the hall has made it unbearable.
:: Posted by cantspelldiKc on December 15, 2013
let’s see, after driving @ 170 miles one way, ticket, parking, cuppa joe, having my brain blasted with volume at 11 was kind of a bummer, had i been to the regency before i would have abstained knowing the problematic space, lesson learned, as a fanboy it was cool to talk with Julie and i got to meet the Sistery Person, best smile on the planet, i frikken love Ade and P@ and mean no disrespect to any members of CP, but the fact remains, shitty sound is shitty sound, it was one of them times when i was glad the thing was over, the whole deal with music is the sound, right?
Re: Peter Sinfield . . .
:: Posted by cloudscapes on December 15, 2013
Indeed we shall . . . Cheers!
:: Posted by Rockette on December 15, 2013
>Apparently, in order for a tour by a band such as King Crimson to work, since they’re not playing stadiums they kind of ’have to’ play in cruddy places periodically.
That’s right. Less well-known bands are completely at the mercy of promoters. If the only offer to play in a certain city happens to be in a less-than-ideal venue, the band might still feel it’s better to accept it rather than leave that city off their tour schedule. Only big, established names have the luxury of being able to pick and choose venues from a wishlist.
:: Posted by emory0 on December 15, 2013
"the fact that Adrian would subject his fans to this kind of abuse is somewhat understandable if the motive is producing revenue"
Nah. Apparently, in order for a tour by a band such as King Crimson to work, since they’re not playing stadiums they kind of ’have to’ play in cruddy places periodically. I keep reading and hearing this over and over: Say a band is touring the west coast, with dates a week apart in LA and Seattle (remember they often can’t get into certain theaters whenever they might want to). Since they can’t afford to have the band and trucks (ie, with gear, lighting, etc...) go to hotels for a week and sit around, they ’HAVE TO’ find available venues in between (that aren’t too large and aren’t too small) and try to make the best of it, otherwise no tour.
It’s kind of a super travelling salesman problem (which is NP incomplete), but with additional complexities! I’d bet a good tour manager is considered a very valuable person, as he will know venues, hotels, and even highways and then book the tour across all of that.
:: Posted by Rockette on December 15, 2013
@cantspelldiKc>when i saw Two of a perfect Trio in SF at the regency ballroom i was horrified that these guys played in such a cave, no amount of volume can overcome such an obstacle, the fact that Adrian would subject his fans to this kind of abuse is somewhat understandable if the motive is producing revenue
IMO the motive is to get out and do some gigs playing enjoyable, challenging music with a good band, which (unless you are a big name) occasionally involves playing in places with a bad sound, too-small stages, etc. Robert Fripp is able to be more choosy because ’King Crimson’, by virtue of the name, gets more offers than the various Crimson Projekcts.
King Crimson 2014
:: Posted by Ray070NL on December 15, 2013
Already excited about the new formation.
7 Crimson-beasts at work!!!!! (i mean it in a good way).
:: Posted by Antonion on December 14, 2013
Peter is scheduled for heart surgery procedure next Friday, 20th of December.
"Who’ll give me comfort when the moon rides in the pines
Who’ll be my pillow when the bitter north wind whines
Who’ll lie beside me as the evening fire declines
Will it be you, will you stay by me, will you stay by me
Will you stay by me, will you stay by me?
Oh of course you will."
Peter Sinfield, "Will it be you (Will you stay by me)"
Yes, we will.
:: Posted by cantspelldiKc on December 14, 2013
for what it’s worth the sound at the Thrak concert in Berkeley was quite good, Zellerbach auditorium gets my vote for the Bay Area, when i saw Two of a perfect Trio in SF at the regency ballroom i was horrified that these guys played in such a cave, no amount of volume can overcome such an obstacle, the fact that Adrian would subject his fans to this kind of abuse is somewhat understandable if the motive is producing revenue, i’m pretty sure the Crimson Project is running in the black and that is all well and good as each of the members are entitled to a decent living wage for the work they do but herein lies the difference of attitude between two wills, Adrian is a mere mortal drivin by the needs of a professional musician where as RF is something else completely, we are being schooled as the facts reveal themselves over time
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