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C/o Bill Bruford, Ph.D.
:: Posted by Antonion on March 08, 2016
Congratulations to Doctor Bill Bruford for your recent accomplishment. You are a role model to us all.
Orpheum cd and dvd a
:: Posted by GratefulJerry on March 08, 2016
I pulled out the album again today and it still sounds fantastic to me. My only complaint was that it was too short. It shouldíve been a full cd and the vinyl couldíve been a 2 lp set. The lack of Larksí Tongues in Aspic Part I and Pictures of a City was a major disappointment for me but what is there sounds great.
A good digital idea.
:: Posted by SoftCorrea on March 07, 2016
I think it would be a good gift for all who have bought the 2015 Toronto concert on CD access to download the digital version to listen while we get the CD. I have bought in the DGM Mail Order Europe.
new drummer for kc
:: Posted by mratosi on March 07, 2016
Bad news, bad news. Iīm afraid, although i was afraid too, when i heard about the new line up a few years ago. Three drummers, old songs, Mel Collins (!), why? Then i heard the Orpheum - a promise, nothing more -, a few bootlegs, Easy Money (canīt wait for the cd!!!), and i think the King Crimson has found itself again. The Beast is back!
What can i say now? The King Crimson will make it with the new drummer, i hope.
See you in Aylesbury!
September 2016 gigs
:: Posted by GRANTC on March 07, 2016
Just read that Bill Rieflin is taking a sabbatical and donít we all need one from time to time. I have bought tickets for Sunday nightís Aylesbury gig, this September, to which Iím over the moon about, having seen the band at the Hackney Empire last September.
One quick question, is Jeremy Stacey able to play the Mellotron (or the keyboard that sounded just like one)? I do love a bit of mellotron and was hoping to get another fix!
Either way, itíll be great, I know.
Jeremy is also a keyboard player as well.
:: Posted by emmapeelfanclub on March 07, 2016
I wouldnít say the Orpheum EP was "limp" since musically I thought it was great, acting as an intriguing teaser of the seven headed version of Crimson. I donít have a DVD audio set up so am only familiar with the basic stereo version and to my ears - and it appears a few others - it sounded a bit flat, lacking the power we were all expecting from a good gutsy live mix. Even Robert in his latest diary entry admits it failed to capture the Crims in full flight.
I think itís down to the way it was mixed as opposed to the bandís performance. Thereís a version of 21CSM on the 2015 tour box from another show shortly after the Orpheum gigs that sounds much better mixed, moving more towards what we hear on the Toronto release. I also feel that the short length of the EP given how weíve been spoiled over the years with complete or as near complete live shows didnít work in itís favour either.
Given those of us who downloaded Toronto have not yet got the CD booklet, Iím curious to know who mixed the Toronto release! Either way, the reception to the Toronto show tells itís own story!
Lastly, a welcome to Jeremy Stacey - will be interesting to see and hear the Crims with him in place of Bill.
:: Posted by emory0 on March 06, 2016
"As one of those mightily disappointed by the limp Orpheum CD..."
Uh...what? Are you like playing it on computer speakers or something? I play the DVD-A on my Krell/Thiel rig and I think it sounds fantastic: The playing is great and the dynamic range makes full use of DVD-A.
OTOH, perhaps itís worth considering the Orpheum disc as an early snapshot of the 7-piece band in a fairly early stage. Youíre hearing the songs, yes, but after the new discs arrive the Orpheum disc will be about what that band sounded like shortly after formation. I think thatís valuable in and of itself, particularly given the track record of previous KC incarnations.
Download & Physical CD of Toronto show
:: Posted by sonofjorg on March 06, 2016
Hello all, if this has been covered I apologise.
I would like to know if I could download the toronto show and buy a physical CD of the show.
It would seem that both should be made available as a single price.
I would like to listen to it now and then get a cd in the mail...
Is this available, and at what price?
Finally, I would add the moment I buy any CD, I convert it to FLAC, so paying more for both seems excessive. It would seem to me that any KC enthusiast should be able to download the FLAC file now and get the CD when it comes out for the same price.
Cheers, and respect to those keeping this engine running
Orpheum vs Toronto
:: Posted by Bakullama on March 05, 2016
As one of those mightily disappointed by the limp Orpheum CD and subsequently floored by the power and majesty of KC on their 2015 UK tour, can I just add a few words to the praise for the Toronto recording?
I too love this Toronto show... But The orpheum does not sound limp to me. I like Orpheums "Starless" better. Still trying to decide which "sailors tale" I prefer. Whats great about having both cds is that we can see the progress, the add-ons, etc as they happened over the course of the tour. Mostly interested in Mels contributions and his free forming as his vocabulary expands throughout the touring.
I canít be certain but it seems RFs guitar playing is going through some slight changes along the way as well... Either new effects or just some interesting touches or flourishes... Noticeable on RED. Lets just say Iím glad to have both CDs.
Still trying to digest monkey mind and Meltdown which lyrically appear to be some sort of reactions to guestbook tomfoolery, smartassery, and ill informed commentary (guilty as charged) on some of our parts that perhaps rattled some cages... Just glad it spurred on a new song in the spirit of Elephant talk.
The lyrics reflect the spirit of many of the aphorisms bandied about here... And although I find the whole philosophy quite stifling... it is all fair enough.
:: Posted by emmapeelfanclub on March 05, 2016
I echo the many thoughts and praise thatís been given to this extraordinary download/forthcoming CD. I too was underwhelmed by the sound of the Orpheum album though could tell that musically it was superb. Saw the band twice last year and they blew my head away creating an indelible experience that will remain with me for the rest of my life. The audiences I was within were very attentive and the band responded to that... quite a few songs would end and thereíd be a few seconds of silence before we started applauding because we listened carefully and were knocked out by what we were witnessing. A few moments too where time genuinely felt like it stood still as the atmosphere and tension was genuinely powerful. Iíve seen many gigs over my life but KC2015 was totally different to them all.
This Toronto show for me captures the real power of this band onstage much better. Compare "The Letters" from Orpheum to how itís been mixed on the Toronto show and the difference is almost light and day with Torontoís dynamics and power being truly explosive! Itís great also to be able to listen to all the finer details - how Robert and Jakkoís guitar work interweave, Jakkoís superb singing throughout (I greatly enjoy the parts he adds in "Easy Money"!), how the drum trio bounce back and forth and unify as one, Billís Mellotron parts loud and clear as they should be, Tonyís constant invention (which more than makes up for the moments when he was near inaudible at the first show I caught) and Melís superb contributions throughout are nothing but a pleasure and joy. The way it all melds together sure is a remarkable piece of teamwork and Iíve been listening to this show all week since I downloaded it on Monday shortly before what Sid described as the "Great Crim Crash"!
Much amusement seeing David Singleton talking about the show on the YouTube video and jokingly suggesting crashing the servers which in some way did actually happen after the video was posted! If anything it proves that interest is high and deservedly so.
Crimson as we all know have always been an exciting live band and we have a remarkable amount of shows to enjoy and this one stands high amongst them capturing the seven headed beast in all itís power and glory and I look forward to the forthcoming multi-disc set with the video footage which I will purchase from the superb merchandise table when I see the Crims again in September. Actually, I must give an honourable mention to all those involved behind the scenes for helping bring this extraordinary band and itís music to us. Quite a few bands and acts I can think of who could learn a few things from how Crimson/DGM and itís team do things whether it be stage presentation, gig merchandise or offering an impressive amount of live archive material.
This Toronto show has made a very happy bunny and Iím glad to see many others also enjoying it.
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