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:: Posted by Bakullama on March 02, 2015

Thats one fine resume Mr Singleton...

"But first... Are you experienced?"
"Have you ever been experienced?"

Wish you the best of luck Sir.

As much as Iíd like to try my luck on the V factor, Iím afraid I sound a lot like Willie Nelson after a giant bong hit. I noticed that the song "San Manuel" could very easily be sung with a country twang. Hmmm. Maybe.

:: Posted by chessplayer on March 02, 2015

...I wonder whether RF signed off that poster, KC in San Francisco, or not. If the answer is yes, everything is in order. If not, then the issue possibly loses any relevance, flushing into the most common nonsense stream.

:: Posted by Bakullama on March 02, 2015

Apology accepted... Must have been my dramatic writing style. And I Am honored that you took the time to dissect my post so thoroughly. I was thinking about writing a paragraph about how dark symbology could possibly affect impressionable minds. You know, just for conversations sake... But now i see there is no need.

Now the guestbook is really cooking

KC Poster, 2015
:: Posted by brighton on March 02, 2015

For my money the the new KC poster for the Euro tour is brilliant and I really hope it adorns any recorded material (studio or live) that the new line-up produce. And, hereís looking forward to the gig at Brighton and the two at Hackney Empire!!

A conspiracy so deep...
:: Posted by HarrySpade on March 01, 2015

... it can only be discovered by reading about it online.

Images from the King
:: Posted by TheNightWatcher on March 01, 2015

I donít know what it really is, but I was never one to be unsettled by King Crimsonís lyric department. It may be that I donít go for Bobby and co. when I want something to blow me away lyrically, but I also imagine that has to do with my opinion that the Mighty Crim never had a compelling enough penman.
Crucify me all you will about it, but neither Sinfield, Palmer-James nor Belew were ever convincing under that point of view, even when their lyrics were sung at full force. Always a bit underwhelming.

Of course, I am not denying that they may have had their strenghts or that claiming I can do better, and: Sinfieldís lyrics I can appreciate for his dextrous wordplay and phrase structures that may warrant multiple meanings; Palmer-James exchanged imagery for meaning (well, except on stuff like "Guts On My Side"), so he was serving the music better than Peter before him by laying low; Belew was always a word sounds and humour over meaning kinda guy to me, right from "Elephant Talk" through "Oyster Soup" to "Facts Of Life". All well and good, but their approaches donít help or are even not about imagery per se, in my opinion.

From the top of my head, I can name a few KC songs that almost went the extra-mile for me:

  1. By Sinfield - "Cirkus" (Canít beat that catastrophe depicted in the end), "The Letters" (Yeah, the "nails of ice" bit), "In The Wake Of Poseidon" (Earth waiting balanced on the scales is the most beautiful image he ever conjured).
  2. By Palmer-James - "Easy Money" (No doubt aided by Muirís SFX), "One More Red Nightmare" (I can easily imagine Wetton asleep on the Greyhound), "Guts On My Side" (This one sounds like something Don Van Vliet would have written).
  3. By Belew - "Neurotica" (This one was powerful), "Sex Sleep Eat Drink Dream" (What a fun little surreal lyric), Clouds (The only KC lyric that works entirely as it was supposed to, I think)

When I want lyrics to leave me unable to remember my name or make me laugh as I havenít in ages, Peter Hammill, Tom Waits, Captain Beefheart and Scott Walker are the men. King Crimson is when I want the music to do that instead.

Still a murky and shallow pool...
:: Posted by TheNightWatcher on March 01, 2015

OK, OK, OK, I overreacted! Big time! And I apologise if I insulted you in any way, Bakullama - sorry indeed! With a little trepanation, the pressure inside my "poor little head" is much relieved, thank you!

Now, if I may leave that behind, even now, the original post of yours seems quite shady on the intent department: it is almost as if it makes no bones about trying to be clear on which side it is on, *and I can take that occasionally, specially on art like King Crimson, The Fall, Big Black, Peter Hammill, Killing Joke, etc.*, but when it comes to a forum, where youíre more or less expected to take a stand, I hope for a bit more clarity, thus not justifying but explaining my answer to it.
Also I donít have much of a tolerance for stuff like that - I believe these things are indeed discussable and debunkable, and have to be done so, even if without significant outcome. Sometimes when you choose to ignore bogus like this, it takes on a life of its own and sounds as if coming from crystal-clear reasoning. The crap you see and read everywhere and ends up as assumed truth by the any half-wit you meet who pretends himself to have anything worthwhile saying and an opinion worth hearing.
In short, you really sounded as a pundit of conspiracies being reflected in the way things run, and that some of it is so blatant youíd be a fool not to see it. If you did not go for that, I apologise again.

With that said, I shall point out I never denied that pseudo-occultist symbolism is everywhere nowadays, in fact, I made clear it is not something rooted on mankindís past but rather a new "cultural" amalgamation of unrelated images made by sociological illiterates, and as such up to be exploited by whoeverís willing to make a commercial statement. Nothing beyond that - nothing to do with ancient civilisations or secret societies or even foreign cultures we now deem to be "satanic" because some are too lazy and arrogant to try and really understands what it means.
Actually, if any of us here took things for granted and thus made factual mistakes it was you. First by claiming that "Most of the [illuminati] imagery dates back to the time of the pharaohs", which is not true at all, I can count on one hand the number of symbols borrowed from the Ancient Egyptians, and may not even use all of my fingers. Secondly, Iím still having quite a hard time trying to perceive your final paragraph as tongue-in-cheek or simply referent to modern zeitgeist: You seem quite convinced Astana was indeed founded with references to occultism, which, again, is not true - the name of the city simply means "the capital" in the local language, no anagrams to Satan or what have you, they have bigger worries over there than to reference some western cultural fad with their doings. Thirdly, it was faux pas to say dark symbolism is "splattered all over the dollar bill , Washington DC, And most of Western major cities", because if you research from veritable sources youíll find they have much more mundane meanings; as for the ímost of Western citiesí part, please refere to my previous post.

It all goes to show that there is absolutely no reason to be unsettled by any of this unless youíre a newly-born skeptic who is still trying to shake off your past as a religious or supersticious kid. There is no reason to "have a hard time believing this [to be] a good thing", because it is not bad either, inasmuch as lycra trousers have done nothing but create an innate distaste for 80s aesthetics, so shall this when it stops being fashionable and goes away. So I am not the only one who has to try and relax for a bit.

The reason, I believe, pseudo-occultism is so entrenched in modern pop culture has to do with two factors: in the first place - being centered in the USA and with everyone who wants to be "big" choosing to "try and break" that market, you can only choose to play by their game, which, with its cultural structure buried deep in fundamentalist and puritanical fearmongering, is that of a society haunted by divine providence, death and the idea that "everything we donít understand is certainly devilish"; this leads us to the second factor - in an age when we are mainly desensitised by images of war, suffering, murder, tragedy, what shocks us makes an impression, which means that, by trying to shock the money out of its potential audience, the only thing you can still use that they fear is the intangible and occult, the potential that they are just pawns in the game of much bigger men and their evil gods.

So a note to us all, esotericism is just a step away from bogus.

Happy Birthday Michael Giles
:: Posted by holmini on March 01, 2015

I hope you could share time today with friends,
love the drumming and vocals on In the Court of the Crimson King (An Observation by King Crimson)
Reading your blog, you are still a voice, who shares observations of life around us today.
Wishing you a time with joy, friendship & your family

Kind Regards from Frankfurt,


What's is the big deal with you so called fans?
:: Posted by StarlessBibleBlack on March 01, 2015

Re: new euro poster, aka "Cyclops"

Big deal. Woohoo. Clap your hands.
I guess p.j.crook forgot to send you a memo. Good day gents.

:: Posted by konaman on March 01, 2015

Blimey, I miss RFís diary more than I anticipated. Whilst I appreciate he has other more productive things to do, has it really gone for good?

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