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:: Posted by Tom239 on December 19, 2013
The older I get, the sillier award ceremonies of all kinds seem to me.
Work speaks for itself. Awards or the lack thereof mean just about nothing by comparison. What has more effect on the world: the very existence of Alfred Hitchcockís films, or the fact that he never got an Oscar for Best Director?
Paying attention to what award committees say is what keeps them alive. If everyone ignored the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, it would go away.
:: Posted by emory0 on December 19, 2013
Just noticed Sidís exhortation to readers to describe a favorite Trey Gunn moment here in the Guestbook.
I think Trey Gunnís contributions to Crimson during his tenure are easy to overlook: For such a ferociously technical player (arguably the most technically-able during all Crim history), he had a ísmall footprintí: His playing didnít scream for attention; You had to pay attention to what he was playing in order to appreciate the sound he was putting out.
My favorite Trey Gunn moment, however, was seeing him play at the Bottom Line with the Trey Gunn band, along with Tony Geballe and others. In that context it was easier to pay attention to Treyís playing, and it was truly wonderful, and the rockiní and complex tunes I think impacted everyone present. Indeed, I remember as we poured out from the early show, some of the attendees were telling the folks waiting for the second show that it was really fantastic.
Oh, and the Cali Guitar Trio dudes were the opening band, and I think they had a great time too (they did an unamplified encore standing in the middle of the audience).
NO! Campaign for R&RHoF
:: Posted by davidly on December 19, 2013
When the two most oppressive forces in the brief history of American Democracy declare bipartisanship for any cause--BEWARE! It will probably result in a Schizoid level of death and destruction.
:: Posted by DannyX on December 18, 2013
...to interstellardiscussion: great link, thx. :) To albemuth: cool story, thx. :) And to cantspelldiKc: um, er, uh....
:: Posted by gasmrv on December 18, 2013
I wonder what a shortish, no-nonsense recording/musical session between Liz Green and RF would produce; perhaps nothing írealí musically, but both seem to have some very peculiar musical qualities...
Liz Greenís "Displacement Sons" is simply brilliant.
:: Posted by albemuth on December 18, 2013
My wife is a big fan of WFMU, the great independent radio station based in New Jersey. Tonight, Tom Sharpling signed off after 13 years of "The Best Show on WFMU." One of his standard (fake) guests is "Philly Boy Roy." On the last show, Philly Boy gave a long tirade about the fact that his biggest enemy is, of all people, Robert Fripp. The reason is that Fripp produced an album for Daryl Hall and added all kinds of avant guard junk, including the dreaded Frippertronics. Philly Boy went on to say that everyone in Philadelphia was livid about Sacred Songs and that, eventually, he confronted Fripp about the matter at a Guitar Craft Seminar, with horrible results ("have you ever been beaten by 50 guys holding Ovation acoustic guitars?").
f the r&rhof
:: Posted by cantspelldiKc on December 17, 2013
having Lou Reed induct Frank was an indicator to real Zappa fans and more importantly his family to go fuck themselves, what more evidence do you need to confirm these people are agents of evil, knowingly or not, if Fripp took the stage those pussies would be shittin on themselves, no Krimson no Beefheart, more evidence of the complicity of silence in a most obvious fashion, these fucks are your enemy, itís ashamed recognition of excellence is the last thing on the agenda yet it is the force they falsely wield
RE: Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
:: Posted by interstellardiscussion on December 17, 2013
Nirvana getting in has nothing to do with KC or Yes, etc not getting in. Nirvana, while not original, changed the landscape of rock and roll in immeasurable ways. No question KC belongs but until Yes gets in they donít have a change. Interesting article on the the drive to get Yes in here.
Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
:: Posted by evilbastard on December 17, 2013
Once again King Crimson gets the shaft. Inducting Nirvana before King Crimson.
:: Posted by emory0 on December 16, 2013
"the whole deal with music is the sound, right?"
Another issue is that a lot of those older halls were never built for amplified rock music. So even in good halls there can be not-so-good-sound. Here in New York Iím familiar enough with some of the medium-sized halls that I try to purchase my ticket for seats where I know the sound will be better.
For instance, in Town Hall (where countless Jazz greats have played back in the day), the overhanging balcony seems to attenuate bass sounds quite a bit if youíre sitting on the ground floor towards the rear. So I either sit in the balcony or further out in front (ie, not under the balcony).
Nothing worse than crappy sound with rock music, though. Everything seems to get turned into trebly and harsh percussion, kind of like CD sound for its first few decades. You can even sometimes hear that the playing and music is good, but the hall has made it unbearable.
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