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Starless box
:: Posted by kevred on October 01, 2014

The Starless box looks very impressive. To all those who have an interest in this period of Crim, or who have enjoyed the Larks or Red live stuff, but not yet taken in this period of live work, I have a succinct message:


For my taste, this is the most fiery and interesting phase of this lineup of the band. This period, which (for me) culminates in the magnificent German shows in March & April of í74 -  is full of exciting experimentation. Songs like "Doctor Diamond" and "Great Deceiver", which would later fall out of the setlists, are tweaked and played with, sounding different every time. And the improvs are wonderfully interesting, some more quiet and prowling, others more bombastic, and itís interesting to hear bits and pieces along the way that would coalesce in the stellar "Asbury Park" improv from íUSAí. To my own ears, this is the perfect "sweet spot" of live Wetton-era Crimson, more focused than what came just before and looser, wilder, and more experimental than what would follow on the final U.S. tour.

And the sounds quality on those "Blue Tapes" shows is terrific. I have the KCCC discs from that series, and a few DGMLive shows as well, and itís really worth hearing for both musical content and sound quality.

For me, that leads to a bit of a quandary. As someone whoís avidly purchased a lot of this material in the past, Iím now looking at an expensive purchase for essentially just four shows that I donít already have (or have access to through DGMLive) - the four as-yet-unreleased Blue Tapes shows. (Of course, that leaves out all of the work involved in remastering, mixing, and the booklet itself that differentiates this set.) Having paid $100 (plus travel) to see the current band in Madison recently, the idea of $55 per show for these new recordings in a series I already love is not easy but still alluring. I hope that someone who buys the set right away will post a review of these never-before-released shows (Avignon, Besancon, Dieburg, Gottingen).

Starless box download ticket
:: Posted by WhiskeyVengeance on October 01, 2014

Just saw the tracklist for the Starless box - yowza! Exciting stuff. But what show will be available via the included download ticket?

:: Posted by Tom239 on October 01, 2014

Grooveshark did not do well in recent court proceedings. A federal judge in New York found that Grooveshark had destroyed evidence ("a sanction for discovery abuse is warranted in this case") in addition to finding that Grooveshark (and several of its staff as individuals) had infringed copyright. Further info is readily available via a web search; news media have reported on the court ruling.

(Robert Fripp has described his dealings with Grooveshark in several diary entries.)

LA Report, first night:
:: Posted by mroberts on October 01, 2014

I was seated in the middle of the balcony. To my right (I was on the aisle) were two fashionable young ladies (and one gentleman). Lucky me, I thought, then quickly realized they may be the least interested in the music in the building. One of the 2 friends arrived about one minute late, so she missed all the announcements. Well, almost right away they whipped out their phones and one started to take pictures. Someone with a blue flashlight was there in a heartbeat to put an end to that. But the woman next to me proceeded to take her phone out about every 5 or 10 minutes to check something (she became pretty discreet about it). Sometimes I would sit like the Thinker and keep my right hand by my face to block the light and distraction. But whenever a song ended she immediately and enthusiastically applauded. And for Schizoid Man she went nuts! Shaking her shoulders and head, suddenly the most emotive and excited person in the crowd! I figure a Kanye West fan? Really, she couldíve been much worse.

I also saw one flash go off on the other side of the balcony. Sigh...

Anyway, I thought with this small theater, thereís not a bad seat in the house. But once the music got going, I wondered how it sounded downstairs. Upstairs it was a bit muddy. I mean, the front line you could hear perfectly and thunderously. They were magnificent. The back line were magnificent, too, but often I had to strain to pick out their parts. (From the 2 previous shows Iíve been to with the Thrak or Power to Believe line-ups, Iím used to hearing everybody in excellent fashion.)

Regardless of the sound, I absolutely loved the show. It was exhilarating. What a wonderful, awesome, fearful and fantastic noise the band can make! I really enjoyed the mix of music from the different KC eras.
I felt I was getting a real treat to hear some of the early 70s songs in full glory! And the rest, too, but that was more of a surprise to me I (not that it shouldíve been with Mel in the band). My brain was so stimulated by this monstrous beast I couldnít sleep!

So, please, please, p-p-p-p-please release some recordings from this tour! I might even go digital and vinyl if thatís an option :-)

Side note: at first I wondered if KC toured just to sell merchandise, I mean, Iíve never seen such a line (before and after the show)! Iíll do my shopping online instead of waiting on line.

Pre-show Announcment
:: Posted by apisch on October 01, 2014

I thought the pre-show announcement was a very imaginative tongue-in-cheek attempt by the band to get their message to the audience.  We all know that past attempts via notices on tickets and doors, and slightly stern warnings by ticket takers, ushers and Robert have not worked.  Robert has a very subtle and low-key sense of humor, and the recording certainly came across to me as such.  - Tony

RE: Hope no RULE BREAKER on 2nd LA show
:: Posted by masanori on October 01, 2014

Additional information, in case the show tries to stop such person on 2nd LA show.

The seat SECTION: MEZZ, ROW: A, SEAT: 108 on the first LA show was NOT my seat. Itís that guyís seat, as only that guy noticed, if he sees here.

I am what I play.
:: Posted by davidly on October 01, 2014

I think the recorded announcement is helpful in eliminating those extra few people who would ignore what is otherwise clearly stated on the tickets and at the venue.

As a hardly scientific example, my feeling is that the pre-show announcement at the Kate Bush performance I attended recently went so far as to preemptively shame those last few into shutting down their devices. Iím not a big proponent, or even believer, in emotions like shame and pride, or the insistence on their necessity, but I was quite grateful to have experienced a show free of mobile intrusion; it helped contribute to a magically immersive theatrical experience.

I cannot say for sure that people would have snapped away had the pre-show announcement not been given, so I will not claim that it is necessary, but neither is photographing performances underway in the theater space. If I were to use my own diminishing memory as an excuse to capture photos, Iíd be taking a picture of my keys wherever I place them as soon as I get home. A picture of Mel or Bob? Tonyís providing enough of those.

Hope no RULE BREAKER on 2nd LA show.
:: Posted by masanori on October 01, 2014

I know I may be wrong in posting this at Guestbook. So I have no complaint at all if DGM donít approve this post. I only hoping that the remainng shows to be better ones.

Once or twice in every one or two tunes during the first LA show, a guy very close to me at SECTION: MEZZ, ROW: A, SEAT: 108 looked like operating camera or smart phone and making those noises from the device. Throughout the show. I did not confirm those action with my eyes because I was concentrating on the music. But the light from the device lit the area often along with those sounds which were obviously sounded from the device includng the one that sounds when taking a photo.

Three things I would like to mention:

1: No staff came to stop this guy.

2: He said to a person sitting next to him about the location of his seat for the 2nd LA show, if my ears were good enough.

3: After clear statement from the musicians, he might have tried to become the bravest man in the world. But the fact is, he only proved by himself that he is a person who cannot follow/respect the rule which was requested even by a person he wants to see. And also the more he shares them with other people the more he spreads the news that he is a person who cannot follow/respect the rule which was requested even by a person he wants to see.

Thank you very much.

Re; No photos, recording message
:: Posted by Valhalla on October 01, 2014

It seems to me that certain people attending a Crimson performance, expect that the band owes them a few things. If you purchase a ticket to a concert, you get what is delivered from the performance, whatever that may be. That would be about it from my perspective. Sure we all like to hear certain songs & a nice sounding mix, but that is the risk we take when attending a concert, isnít it? Seriously, to be at a gig of that caliber would be suffice one would think! Some people should think themselves lucky that they have that opportunity!
In regards to comments like "No matter how great a band is, without fans they are nothing". Well what a load of rubbish, talk about self gratification! The band existed before any fans knew of it! And donít give me that drivel of íyes but we supported them financially for eons"!
Also, being asked to refrain from taking photos, filming or the like is not condescending at all, far from it actually! It is simply that certain people cannot handle being told what to do, or even being asked politely it seems! Tough titties as the saying goes! Put the stupid camera or mobile phone away for crying out loud, your life will exist for a little while longer, surely? Maybe they should just confiscate all devices at the door into a compactor bin & then activate the start button! Then we would hear some complaining no doubt! Although some may think that that sound was part of the Crimson performance! Cheers.

Joshua Bell
:: Posted by albemuth on September 30, 2014

Here is violinist Joshua Bell, commenting on a concert he gave September 30 at the Washington D.C. metro stop.  May it be so for KC!
ďMusic ó you need the give and take from the audience, the feeling of attention. Itís not about me its about the music itself.Ē
You can find the full story on one of the pages of http://www.pbs.org/

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