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Grateful
:: Posted by KramNamloc on November 03, 2014

It wasnít so long ago when it looked like the King was finished. NO MORE!
The King has risen!

Grateful. Thanks to all KC members, past and present.
Best way to start a Monday- ever!

Joy!


:: Posted by emory0 on November 03, 2014

"That bootleg sounds great. That person will be considered a "scumbag" until it comes out that..."

Well, I think your analysis focuses too much on the taping itself as a legal act. "You bootlegged a concert and therefore you are a scumbag": Thatís not really the issue so much. The issue is the intentionality: If the band has clearly stated their aversion to taping or video-ing, then taping and videoing brings a hostile element into the venue, no? In that context it is at best an act of hostility. Like sneaking a slice of bacon you will secretly eat into the house of an orthodox Jewish or Muslim friendís home: Even if they donít ever find out about it, isnít it accurate to say thatís a kinda shitty thing to do?


Re: Scumbags
:: Posted by Bakullama on November 03, 2014

Masks are coming off everywhere... From Cliff Richards to barackobama, scandals abound. These are the days of enlightenment and truth. Hang on, it may get bumpy. As for Mr. Fripp, his public image is exactly what he says it is... Forthright, honorable, prick when necessary. Ya gotta respect that.


Re: Scumbag?
:: Posted by AcousticPhenomena on November 03, 2014

Via Jakkoís Twitter: "Listening through to show number 13 & making copious notes." This is exciting news.

That bootleg sounds great. That person will be considered a "scumbag" until it comes out that the SBD shit the bed that night and then when itís released on DGM it will be "a bootleg surfaced and has now been restored for your listening pleasure". Why villify these people until the source recording is unavailable and then thank them for "helping" in the last hour?

I wish Jakko would tell us more. I actually have thought quite a bit since my last few posts and iwth Sidís comment about how other rehearsed songs list "is not yet available for public consumption" does have a ring of sensibility to it. We (in general) are a rather invasive fanbase. I think thatís what a great band does for its listeners.


Stages of the Road
:: Posted by jbricker on November 03, 2014

For those who canít get enough of talking about live Crimso, I highly recommend this thread just underway here:

Stages of the Road: A Discussion of Live King Crimson Releases
http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/stages-of-the-road-a-discussion-of-live-king-crimson-releases.389273/


Sons of the Silent Age & Blackout
:: Posted by JeffTruzzi on November 03, 2014

Iím pretty sure Mr. Fripp plays on both of these David Bowie songs from "Heroes" - absolutely on the second one - merely so processed by Brian Eno that it doesnít sound quite like a guitar.
More of a guitar/synth/effects hybrid.

I loved it.

Seeing that distinctive cover in the record store - "The new Bowie!"
Reading the back credits - "Brian Eno!" (I loved "Low.")
And then: íROBERT FRIPP?!"

Adolescent fanboy excitement doesnít BEGIN to describe my emotional state -
before hearing a single note of it.

Another treasured life moment.


AN EVENING WITH ROBERT FRIPP * March 2 1983 * UCSD, San Diego
:: Posted by JeffTruzzi on November 03, 2014

(a more detailed yet still imprecise recollection)

Everyone walked into the Mandeville Auditorium as Robert Fripp was playing electric guitar - Frippertronics, recording bed tracks he would solo over later. After everyone was seated and quiet, he stopped playing, turned off the machines, and gently rocked himself back and forth in his chair with his eyes closed. Total silence, you could hear a pin drop.
The first thing he said was:
"I wonder what you expected?"

I felt like the first day of first grade, when the teacher asks the class something that you KNEW the answer for, and excitedly waved my hand as if I were still in grade school while he picked others who said things like "Distortion" and "Ambience."

Then he picks me, and I say:
"I expected nothingÖ"
The entire room gasps, horrified, as if Iíd just insulted the shit out of him.
"Öin particular."

After a painfully pregnant pause, Fripp said something like:
"Ah, so there IS an innocent in the audience. Well, I trust you will be edified."
The room erupted in applause and mild cheers:
Boy Fripp sure put that bastard heckler in his place!

After the room quiets, he says: "If you are telling the truth, youíre only the second or third person Iíve ever known who thinks that way. Brian Eno is someone who always has a truly opened mind." And then RF proceeded to lecture the room on how bringing our expectations to an event will color and cloud our minds as to what is actually happening, as opposed to what people WANT to have happen. Events, particularly artistic ones, are only fully appreciated for what they are when one leaves their expectations behind.

No expectations. Expecting nothing. I KNEW that was the frigginí answer! Iíd read him speak of this in many interviews. So I was right, and every single one of those bastards applauding against my comment was wrong.

Did Mr. Fripp give me any credit for having had the correct answer? Of course not! Heís Robert Fripp!

Later, in his lecture, he wrote (on a chalkboard) MUSIC at the top, MUSICIAN at the bottom, BUSINESS on the left and LISTENER on the right. He drew an arrow downward from MUSIC to MUSICIAN, and another arrow from left to right from BUSINESS to LISTENER. "Notice that these are positioned at cross purposes."

An enjoyable, unexpectedly exciting - and dare I say, edifying - evening.


Slack-jawed
:: Posted by emory0 on November 02, 2014

"Iím surprised and not surprised at the same time."

That was my reaction. Of course, it could have been someone who worked at/for the venue and that had no idea of the feelings that Fripp and the band have towards illicit taping.

Aside from the possibility, though, if it WAS someone who was a "friend or family", then we have to acknowledge that there are people out there who have no notion of honoring a commitment if that commitment doesnít buy you anything, In other words, a sociopath. Sociopaths are always among us and, though they may have learned how to look like they are feeling some emotion akin to human emotion, the sociopath isnít capale of that and they indeed ttend to blinldly imitate "real" human life. And thereís nothing you can do about it because there are always people who will do that.


rehearse this
:: Posted by myshadow on November 02, 2014

I have been hoping Pat and Tony convince RF to play Breathless. It may be a number where some one sits it out ala íTrioí or just add a bit of color to the crescendo. 


Re: Scumbag?
:: Posted by markmmarkm on November 02, 2014

Groovy, Bakullama.

Maybe you can convey your observations to Mr Fripp.


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