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:: Posted by PPmINTY on March 07, 2015

Vicars and tíArts

...is what I meant to say

(a puny punny reference that might lose translation transatlantically - but Iíd be very surprised if no one had thought of it previously).

Thanks for clarifying the Two Vicars quandary though, Sid. Iíd often wondered about that.

Did I hear right? Did Stormy just say that heíd found ínewí recordings of the Jamie Muir era? I personally canít get that excited about tour bundles from 2000, or íHot Ticklesí that Iíve already downloaded, but that one passing mention certainly made my ears prick up!

KC 2000-03
:: Posted by GregK1 on March 07, 2015

How very exciting to read this in Mr Frippís diary:
"A step forward in the re-evaluation of this KC Period, and also waiting re-addressings are The ProjeKcts and KC 2000-2003."

Skip the 80s stuff and jump right to this, please!!!

Great to hear from Fripp, as always
:: Posted by thinwhiteduke on March 07, 2015

Canít wait for the rest of the 40th Anniversary series. Especially THRAK. Though, if I was actually waiting for the 40th Anniversary edition of The Power to Believe, Iíd be waiting til 2043. I hope itís not that long.

also excited at the mention of a blues number

Vicars & Tarts
:: Posted by PPmINTY on March 07, 2015

I just read the rough draft of Davidís biographical bumph. It certainly puts things into perspective ("Too much f..." ah! you know the rest!)

Thereís one other mystery factoid that often keeps me awake at night. On Anthony Phillipsí first couple of solo albums (circa 1978-79), there is someone called The Vicar credited with guitar, vocals and keyboards. I now wonder if these gentlemen were one and the same? For many years Iíd laboured under the assumption that, in this case, The Vicar might have been a pseudonym for producer Rupert Hine, a name that often crops up in the world of all things proggy... hmmm... hmmm?

On a completely unrelated note:- Does anyone (particularly anyone here in the UK who might be familiar with such things) know how long it usually takes for Ticketmaster to dispatch tickets? Iím not entirely comfortable in this world of electronic transaction! Iíve paid out a lot of money for tickets to see the KCrims at the Brighton Dome; I have email confirmation; I have printed out my receipts to íproveí it, but I wonít rest easy until I have the actual, tangible, real-life tickets in my sweaty mit - if only for the fact that I tire of fellow potential audients who keep badgering "Are they there yet?"

re Anthony Phillips - a vicar of a different diocese I'm afraid.

:: Posted by emory0 on March 06, 2015

"BTW, were the (somewhat OT) references to Schoenbergís pupils meant to impress me, or someone else?"

Neither. My point in bringing up the 12 tone boys wasnít so much to impress but to punch my way out of the box you tried to cram me and my ears into. Indeed, trying to "impress" by mentioning the 12-tone composers is a bit like bragging about playing a game of D&D all night, isnít it? But my point was that listening to (and enjoying!) a very wide range of music actually requires listening to music on its own terms. Of course, itís certainly possible to listen to music on its own terms and still not like it, but I think the language one uses in such situations doesnít place the onus on the music but on oneself. (And maybe you did this with TCoL, but I, uh, didnít hear that coming from your post.)

An example? Although I will readily grant that Mozartís music is divine and "perfect", I happen to dislike it and, sometimes, even hate it (though I did like Magic Flute). But I am quick to ascribe my dislike of Mozartís music to something I lack or donít have in sufficient quantity. (But then again Glenn Gould didnít like Mozart either!)

TCoL and TPtB are interesting records because they push Crimsonís music out in a certain direction very far, a direction of (for the most part) pretty damned hard rock. Like, Level 5 (one of the great Crimson songs, I maintain). Listening to double duo Crimson requires a very different set of ears than, say, listening to the new 7 piece band. Itís not like listening to, say, Larkís Tongue, but requires a sort of surrender to the ineluctable sound of the 4 piece Crimson.

re: Crieria...
:: Posted by DannyX on March 06, 2015

You confuse criteria with expectations...one can listen with open yet critical ears. Everyone develops artistic criteria (one hopes), qualities that one finds interesting and important, through experience...how else does one learn to make quality judgments, and broaden oneís tastes? Or perhaps one is simply not listening. Of course itís presumptuous to think that everyone has the SAME criteria...that would make for a rather boring existence, wouldnít it? My apologies for misconstruing your poorly worded initial post...it left the impression that sheer volume was an important quality to YOU (I prefer dynamics myself). And I do thank you for your concern in pointing out my íproblemí. BTW, were the (somewhat OT) references to Schoenbergís pupils meant to impress me, or someone else?

New Stormy content coming to DGM Live
:: Posted by mikefrost on March 06, 2015

GREAT NEWS STORMY!!! First the Guildford show on general release (wonder it it had anything to do with what I said on the guestbook...) and now this! Prog on and keep em coming!!!


Will the artwork for the Stormy Monday Vol 7 volume be put up for those of us who painstakingly kept all the individual downloads in order, etc?

Record Store Day
:: Posted by snkzato1 on March 06, 2015

I assume that the record store day releases are CD only?

I need to verify how hyped I need to get for this
CD only.

What we all want!
:: Posted by Bakullama on March 05, 2015

So, some want Rock, some want psychedelia, others prefer hypnotic and moving, or dark, or soothing, or witty, shitty, loud and gritty.... Lucky for us this band delivers it all.

In 1999 I and a few others posted in this guestbook that King Crimson should try their hand at a blues type tune... Then came TCoL. I guess someone was listening. Lol. TCoL is still far and away better than most 20th century "rock" albums anyhow.

Let me get weird for a minute and say that I liken King Crimson to an exploratory satellite like Voyager... Exploring deep space... Going places no-one has dared to go before... Seeking out new life, exploring strange new worlds.... (As dearly departed Spock would say) And for almost 50 years now!!!. Hopefully I will live long enough to see what they discover next.
(Theremin sounds)

:: Posted by emory0 on March 05, 2015

""If itís still boring then you didnít play it loud enough." Ahh, I think I understand your criteria now."

I see the problem now: You HAVE criteria. Good (all?) music brings its own criteria and to fully enjoy the wide range of musics out there one must discard pre-existing criteria, no matter how pleasant the conditions of oneís local Bag End may be.

On the other hand, my favorite of Webernís 6 Pieces for Orchestra happens to be the funeral dirge (3?), so maybe you are right. Then again, Boulez was on fire that night. Anne Sophie Mutter playing the SHIT out of Bergís Violin Concerto didnít hurt either.

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