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Re: Scumbag?
:: Posted by markmmarkm on November 02, 2014

Groovy, Bakullama.

Maybe you can convey your observations to Mr Fripp.

Rehearsed but not performed...
:: Posted by DanAnderson on November 02, 2014

Hey Sid,
Tony mentioned in a blog about there were some tunes the band rehearsed but never played on this tour. Do you know what they were? They just killed it on the ones they did play (my favorite being The Letters). The rehearsal set list isn't intended for public consumption at the moment, Dan.

Slack jawed...
:: Posted by DanAnderson on November 02, 2014

Iím surprised and not surprised at the same time. One would think a private show wouldnít be taped but at least one person didnít think so. On the subject of KC bootlegs, Iíll admit that Iíve collected roughly 150 or so since 1974 (a mere trifle by Vargan standards and none of them are pirated official releases, either). Why? Even in some of the most shoddy sounding boots there is something that captures the spirit of the music. Even in crap recordings I can get into and ride that spirit. The spirit of the music is what makes Crimson so different from everyone else. This is why I have also bought at least the different incarnations of each studio release, approximately 3/4 of the live hard discs and the Wetton/Bruford band box sets sold by DGM. My wife doesnít understand it. WE on this forum do.

In my opinion, DGM blew it by not doing a 2008 and immediately releasing a concert. This opens the door for the bootleggers to get their wares out on the net. Is DGM going to lose any money because of this? I really doubt it. Fanatic bootleg collectors donít spend the money for the real stuff. The outrage is justified but at the same time, this is 2014 and this is going to happen. The technology is too good and the bootleggers are too determined to pull it off so there you go.

Weíll just have to wait for the "good shit" to come along to spend our money on.

AB3 in Chi = BIG FUN
:: Posted by Chris_DeVito on November 02, 2014

Saw the Adrian Belew Power Trio in Chicago last night at a great venue, the Old Town School of Folk Music, and it was a blast. Belew exudes joy, energy, and fun nonstop, even when his guitars are breaking down. The trio sound like twice as many musicians -- when drummer Ralph Tobias lets it rip (and Belew gave him plenty of space to do that), he blows away any three drummers (yes, including the recent King Crimson lineup). Best version of "Indiscipline" Iíve ever heard, too (and Iíve heard more than a few). All that and "City of Tiny Lights" -- if you get a chance to see this band, donít miss it!

Reaction to Should I be as slack-jawed as this?
:: Posted by becarmi on November 01, 2014

I saw that too,

Frankly, I am not surprised at all. This is no longer 1974. Things have changed. RF battle against audience recording is a lost battle. When Neil Young is touring, you could be sure that at least one recording will pup-up the very next day. Some of them are very good. I hardly believe that this dent very much Neilís earnings. Even though Neilís gigs are among the most downloaded on dime, perhaps beaten only by Led Zeppelin. The number are not big. The most snatched torrents rarely reach 6000 world wide, even for Led Zeppelin. These recordings are fan made and are exchanged freely. Bootleggers are not longer making piles of money with these recordings. I respect DGMLive decision not to quickly release one 2014 gig. Still, I do believe that this is a mistake. KC fans are very dedicated and widely disperse around the world. Most of us were far away form places were gigs were held. Moreover, tickets were sold quickly. So, very few of us had the chance to ear this music. As far as I know, we have heard officially not a single song played during the last tour. I do not understand why DGMLive did not post at least one song on video. This would have been excellent publicity. It could even have attracted new young fans. Looking at the pictures posted by Tony Levin, the crowds were dominated by the fifty and older. I found DGMLive videos disappointing and I stop watching them. The music is what is important, the rest is detail.

:: Posted by Bakullama on November 01, 2014

Dylan, a lying scumbag and a druggie? Seems many are very upset to find out these are human beings. Before the internet, all the beautiful people were carefully placed before the world by the media machine as heroes, geniuses, pensive artists, and eloquent thinkers. Now we find out they are just like us. The truth overpowers the image we have/had of these folks with negative effects. Quite honestly I preferred the old ways. Get to know these "stars" too well and they run the risk of becoming similar to a bad neighbor who lets his dogs piss on our lawn. Thats human nature. They donít sell em like they used to.

:: Posted by Rockette on November 01, 2014

>the very recent appearance of one from the pre-first public concert at The Egg, the one from September 8th, the night supposed to be an event for FRIENDS AND FAMILY of the band!

Unbelievable isnít it. Who is the mole in the camp? Sometimes itís the person you least suspect...

Should I be as slack-jawed as this?
:: Posted by TheNightWatcher on November 01, 2014

I am finding hard even to have for words to describe it and I thought that would be something we could be assured not to happen, right now there are already bootlegs from the 2014 KC tour around, which is distressing but not surprising, however, the hardest blow Iíve come across is the very recent appearance of one from the pre-first public concert at The Egg, the one from September 8th, the night supposed to be an event for FRIENDS AND FAMILY of the band!

Does anybody understand the language Iím typing in? Or am I the only one dismayed by this? Really, it sounds like an example of the old saying "With friends like these..."

Re: Lying?
:: Posted by markmmarkm on November 01, 2014

If one reads the entire, not long article (headlined about heroin), one finds that, tho he may be a GREAT artist, Dylan can be something of a lying scumbag. And so that is why RFs citing him is unfortunate.

Fripp on 'Heroes'
:: Posted by andrews65 on November 01, 2014

Hi, can anyone confirm whether Robert plays on the final two tracks on side one of Heroes?

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