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Update: Crim on SiriusXM
:: Posted by apisch on April 13, 2013
I listened to the King Crimson concert from the BBC Vault last evening on SiriusXM, supposedly recorded in May 1974. Songs played were Easy Money, Lament, Book Of Saturday, Exiles, The Mincer, The Talking Drum, Larks’ Tongues In Aspic (Part II), and 21st Century Schizoid Man.
There is an announcer who provides an intro to each of the songs. At the beginning of the show, he states it is part of BBC "In Concert" series and is being held in Amsterdam at the Concertgebouw. This show is listed as occurring on March 31, 1973, in the DGM Tour Dates. Perhaps Robert could clear this up for us!
Tony
The Drive to Our Transhumanist Utopia
:: Posted by davidly on April 13, 2013
As highlighted by wardism and other good folk via Sid Smith in the News section, the BBC News article entitled ’Should music fans stop filming gigs on their smartphones?’ quickly becomes free advertisement for something called 45sound.
Part of part of that:
"What our unique proprietary technology is able to do is take the poor quality on-camera audio from fan videos, and we analyse that and can see the patterns, even though it’s very weak and distorted," explains Cathal Furey, co-founder of the firm, 45sound.
But Mr Furey believes it is 45sound’s audio-matching software which gives it the edge over rivals - meaning no human intervention is needed in order to whip the clips into a listenable state.
"It’s all completely automated," he says.
Hooray! I cannot wait until going to concerts and listening to music is automated, as well.
REM sleeep
:: Posted by albemuth on April 12, 2013
Today, some of my "facebook friends" were celebrating the 30-year anniversary of Murmur by REM. I was living in North Carolina in the early 1980s, and my friends (now facebook friends) were hugely excited by this release. Then, as now, I listen to Murmur and do not hear much excitement. I recall that the same friends thought that LTIA was a terrible proggy, square, un-hip thing. Ah, me! I’m still celebrating the 40th anniversary of my favorite album of all time. Just 10 years makes a generation gap. What to do? LTIA! LTIA! LTIA!
Addendum no. 894576
:: Posted by Slipstream on April 12, 2013
To clear up whatever doubt may be aroused by the previous post, because I’m having Burroughs-induced visions lately and it’s sipping through my writting too (i.e.: cut-up, ambiguous).
"Recipient" as in "those interested in emulating the sound", since I do believe the guestbook has it’s fair share of them.
"Technical inquiry" as in "as if it were a technical inquiry", one which could easily be brought forward after the recent news in case it moved those hypothetical Wetton-thirsty lovers lurking in the guestbook.
As another aside, reading to your post after having overlooked it, Carnamagos, I found it quite interesting to learn Wetton used HiWatts, his sound, for some reason, reminded me of John Entwistle, therefore I made the assumption his amp was a Marshall. Never bothered to find out if it was true or not.
For f**k’s sake, guess I must start to use proof reading and go from A straight to B...
F-U.P? Yes...
:: Posted by Slipstream on April 12, 2013
"I hoped the tongue-in-cheek nature of my Wetton-sound post would be evident--though the unique Wetton-spirit manifests most clearly in the ferocious right-hand technique."
Would be too clear had I seen it while in my hurry to leave the house after exposing my useless POV, but then, the topic was an aside and my answer was to the original recipient, as in general technical inquiries.
"For the rest: In attempting to emulate others, one eventually discovers the impossibility, and instead becomes oneself--but the bumbling process of imitation facilitates the discovery, and for some is indispensable to it."
I’d say yes, sometimes it begins like that, whether in subtle ways and others not so subtle (even heard of how Ian Anderson switched to flute?). What disturbs me is the other face of this method: the obsession with being "just like" growing and with shortcuts found to close approach of any given style, evolving until a carbon copy appears and we end up with just another unoriginal jazz guitarist or a particular songwriter which I hate but shall not name.
My favourite method of learning is being bored with what already exists and striving to create something else and learn whatever you have to offer - it may appear through the aforementioned method, as you acknowledged, but I’d rather it did more often.
Never mind...
Re: Wetton-Sound
:: Posted by Carnamagos on April 12, 2013
"To bring Wetton’s sound is no good trying to trace even the wiring he uses, because, while a parallel is possible (?), it remains alien."
I hoped the tongue-in-cheek nature of my Wetton-sound post would be evident--though the unique Wetton-spirit manifests most clearly in the ferocious right-hand technique.
For the rest: In attempting to emulate others, one eventually discovers the impossibility, and instead becomes oneself--but the bumbling process of imitation facilitates the discovery, and for some is indispensable to it.
amsterdam...
:: Posted by jtwillia on April 12, 2013
The Amsterdam concert was in November 1973 (23rd I think?.
yes, they pay them
:: Posted by Undisciplined on April 11, 2013
Regarding the query below about XM paying the artists, there is some information below. To answer more specifically, they don’t pay them. You do. Satellite radio, of course, is not free. It is subscription-based, and the rate includes a 12.5% royalty fee. As for the ’74 concert from Amsterdam, that presumably is what ended up on The Night Watch, which any self-respecting KC fan should already have in his/her collection. Still, nice to know that SiriusXM includes our favorite band as part of the platform!
Hey, Vicar! +
:: Posted by Slipstream on April 11, 2013
Hey, Vicar! Those drummer jokes are very good (not to mention true to the core), but the gifs do add extra tastiness, and I was thinking: what about one of Mark E. Smith doing his "famous" (to me, anyway) contempt cringe? I am sure that, amongst his seemingly endless list of hated things, drummers must be somewhere as well...
By the way, I think anybody willing to learn Wetton’s sound approach should also remember the advice that Fripp gives when people try to do the same about his own: you have to have the attitude as well. Pete Townshend has Eric Clapton’s signature guitar but he still sounds like himself (a good example I read somewhere), etc. To bring Wetton’s sound is no good trying to trace even the wiring he uses, because, while a parallel is possible (?), it remains alien.
Re: Crimson on SirusXM
:: Posted by apisch on April 11, 2013
Thanks for the tip, jhessel. This link provides a little more info on the concert (May 1974 in Amsterdam - although Amsterdam does not show on the DGM Tour Dates page and KC looks to have been in North America in that timeframe) and replay dates/times (4/12 @ 11PM ET, 4/13 @ Noon ET, and 4/14 @ 6PM ET).
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