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To Mr. Harryspade:
:: Posted by froggy55 on October 11, 2014
Thatís awful easy for you to say. You probably got to go!
:: Posted by Undisciplined on October 11, 2014
:: becarmi wrote:
I do not understand all the fuss about the fact that there will be no DVD of this fall tour.
Yeah, me neither, and, yes, I saw them on the tour. The much bigger disappointment that thereís not going to be a Blu Ray! That $25, which is burning a hole in my pocket, will just have to be re-directed toward a ticket to a live Stick Men gig instead...
:: Posted by DannyX on October 11, 2014
Not sure which is more laughable, the whining or the scolding. The Lady or the Tiger...
Memories of ITCOTCK
:: Posted by simkin_eden on October 11, 2014
I was sixteen years old, in secondary school in a coastal town in East Anglia (UK).
I became friends with a another boy who was a semi-professional drummer even at that age, one afternoon we walked after school to one of the record shops in the town and there was ITCOTCK in one of the racks, too expensive for either of us to afford.
My friend looked through the bargain bin, removed a low price sticker from one these LPs stuck it on ITCOTCK and then went and bought it at this much reduced price. How he knew of this LP I donít know, unlike me he wasnít as surprised when he first played it.
The totally misleading quiet swirling wind sounds suddenly shattered by raging guitar and almost shouted angry lyrics just blasting out. I was hooked, and here I am 45 years later still listening, still engaged with it, still impressed by the musicianship, still hearing something new in each recording.
Once Schizoid Man finished, the next track was too a surprise, nothing like what Iíd just heard. This was not the way we expected things back then!
ITCOTCK is one of a unique group of recordings, without wishing to sound too pompous, the 20th century equivalents of the works of classical composers of previous centuries - music that will endure.
:: Posted by becarmi on October 11, 2014
HarrySpade is right on! I could not have said it better. I do not understand all the fuss about the fact that there will be no DVD of this fall tour. Music is what count and downloads, hopefully sooner than later, will do the job for me.
:: Posted by HarrySpade on October 11, 2014
The commentary online just baffles me sometimes... King Crimson release giant boxed sets of their albums and theyíre accused of gouging their fans, or they donít release a live video and theyíre also accused of somehow screwing their fans. Damned if you do, damned if you donít.
I didnít see the 2014 tour, which was a bit of a letdown, but... I and my family are in reasonably good health, weíre not impoverished, the kids are doing well in school, in addition to a steady day job I make some money playing guitar on the weekends, and overall life is good. If I donít have the opportunity to see a concert or buy a video, I wonít foam at the mouth and rant to the digital ether about it.
I would respectfully suggest that other presumably stable adults develop some perspective, or at least count to ten before posting online. The infantile comments Iíve seen here and elsewhere recently are really not necessary.
:: Posted by fishbonealice on October 11, 2014
Unlike others herein I am, I must confess, not particularly interested in a dvd of the recent KC concerts. Naturally, from sheer curiosity it would be interesting to see the on-stage shenanigans of the band. But in my humble opinion what matters is the music, and I often find visuals distracting (on screen I mean; live is a different thing altogether). I would, however, love to know if any of the gigs will be released on cd/download some time in the future. Now that I most definitely WOULD want want to have.
RE: Re; Filming
:: Posted by masanori on October 11, 2014
Firstly I think I should tell you first that this comment from me might destroy your impression on Eyes Wide Open DVDís Japan portion. So if you donít want it to, I should suggest you not to read on from this point.
Some views from a Japanese guy that is myself.
Yes Japanese crowd/people have been traditionally polite. Still may looks polite today, comparing to some other cultures. Quiet?? Mmmm.... Yes, quiet. But being quiet and being forced to be quiet are different. And the latter is majority, it looks like to me. In other words, they have no courage to start doing something no other poeple are doing. Especially when it makes you highlighted, like start making noise in complete silence. You very often see this fashion in so many scenes in todayís Japanese society. From my experience, I have no doubt that Japanese crowd at concert is one whose amount of communicaton with musician during concert is one of the very least in the world, and I think thatís one of the biggest reasons why something truly special or magic hardly happens in concert in Japan, comparing to concert in other countries I have visited. Of course communication can be done not only with words from mouth but also with.... almost everything you can do at your seat. With your eyes, your bodyís movement, etc etc.
My impression on Eyes Wide Open DVDís Japan portion is that it sounds very different from what I heard in the venue. And I love what I heard in the venue much more than whatís on the DVD. So I rarely watch the DVD. Maybe fearing it might end up taking over the sound of what I heard in the venue.
Then, crowd who usually tend to be quiet cannot have huge amount of communication with musician during concert?? No way!! The crowd of Kate Bushís shows I attended were having unbelievable amount of communication with her while most of the time they were listening quietly. Their status beautifully changed: For exmaple they could stop huge cheers and go quiet whenever they wanted, even if they started huge cheers few seconds ago. One of the best crowd I have ever seen.
No DVD??? Has DGM gone corporate?
:: Posted by froggy55 on October 10, 2014
I am extremely disappointed, and upset to learn that a dvd of the recent King Crimson tour is not in the works.
This is a big F**K YOU to us blue collar working class King Crimson fans who couldnít afford to buy a plane ticket and fly half way across the country, and shell out $300 to see our favorite band!
Perhaps John Lydon was correct in his assumption in the 70s when "Prog" bands such as Genesis, became popular with the doctor and lawyer crowd, he accused them of taking rock ín roll away from the working class. Has King Crimson joined the ranks?
Always in the past, DGM has done, or has done their best to, accommodate their fan base, but you surely dropped the ball this time!
:: Posted by Valhalla on October 10, 2014
Hello andyfromozz, I would love to see a live dvd from a concert of this lineup, but alas maybe later perhaps? I would hope we can hear a live audio recording maybe, somewhere down the track. Many bands need time to ínail ití so to speak! A couple of dozen gigs possibly, before everything falls into place. I remember reading something years ago from Fripp, stating that the filming process is an uncomfortable one for him, it kills the ímomentí or something along those lines.
It is a gamble to film a concert & maybe they will play some Japan dates (which would be rather frustrating for us being that close). Unless we can put intense pressure on the band, so they feel really guilty & then drop downunder? Ha!
The Japanese crowds are very polite, quiet & respectful. Australian & American concert crowds tend to have the occasional loud mouth yelling crap out etc! This totally disrespectful attitude from the minority of an audience, certainly rankles me big time. Hereís hoping they do Japan (& Oz) & film a gig in Japan like the superb Eyes Wide Open dvd, what a recording that is, one of the best I have ever seen & I also own! Donít worry about your ranting, good to see such passion for the mighty Crim! I often wonder as to how many Crimheads there would be in Oz, that would support a concert or three out here? Cheers.
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