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Oh yeah
:: Posted by garbonzo on March 25, 2014

"(the difference between masculine and feminine): Oh yeah? Oh yeah! " So, which punctutation mark is attributed to which gender?

Second vote for a P3 bundle
:: Posted by gojikranz on March 24, 2014

Just like to throw my vote for a P3 bundle as well. I have abstained from grabbing the single shows in anticipation of a bundle like the other projekcts. I do have the cd of them but would love to get it all.

Also thanks for the early league of gentlemen shows love that stuff

:: Posted by tim7777 on March 24, 2014

Did you know miles was hit over the head by a drunk white pd officer.His own band member stated after that miles changed.Miles did an interview where he did compare white drummers to black ones.Its in a old rolling stone interview.The writers name is Don Demicheal,December,1969.Emeryo go check that article out.brother.In the article he says you need both players.BLACK AND WHITE.I think it would be a beautiful move by king crimson to bring in a black player.How many white drummers did miles use?How many black.Its way over due for crim.Omar played on exposure tracks.Why not try it on a crimson record.Just food for thought.No harm meant @ all. I am a crimson fan.In fact i will be ordering the road to red very soon.And yes i agree  with you that miles would have given crim the nod after all he loved bands that improvise.Check out that  interview its very very good.BLESSINGS.

Tongue's Lark
:: Posted by emory0 on March 24, 2014

"It is abrasive and challenging, but to call that bad music is a joke."

Some people just donít have their listening "chops" ready for something so out of left field as Larkís tongue was. You have to WORK a bit to develop the kind of listening skills that better music needs, but unfortunately some people (critics in particular) seem to think they should get something íinstantlyí or else it canít be any good.

I remember picking up a copy of the Wire some years back and it mentioned Sylvian/Frippís Damage, and they took issue with Frippís playing on that record (which I think is the best of his career). So I shrugged: It baffled me a bit but I figure "no accounting for taste".

But then I flipped to a different review, of the boxed set of Coltraneís classic quartet. The reviewer wrote off Coltrane discs including Giant Steps, Plays, My Favorite Things as íselling outí to pop culture so I promptly closed the magazine and never bought another issue: THATíS someone with zero ears.*

*: It was also clear from his review that he didnít know that The Sound of Music hadnít come out in movie form by the time of My Favorite Things, proving the guy was really lazy on practically every front.

:: Posted by emory0 on March 24, 2014

"your up on what miles davis had to say about white players and black players"

Oh yeah. But of course I donít think Miles was referring to skin tone per se, but just in their approach to timing and playing Jazz in particular. However, Miles dubbed Bill Evans an honorary black man and lets remember he had some pretty badass white cats in his 60s and 70s bands. (Though I wonder if he knew that Keith Jarrett regarded himself as white!)

But greater Crimson and Fripp is really a different animal. (Indeed, I have occasionally wondered if Fripp just jettisoned the more Jazzy approach he sometimes took on earlier records because it just didnít feel authentic.) But Iíd bet that if Miles heard, say, the last three 70s Crimson discs heíd nod approvingly: Not the kind of music he played himself, but authentic and powerful. Gavin is definitely in this mode, which is why I think heíll do some amazing things in Crimson. Rieflin,on the other hand, is slightly more íblackí timing-wise, and perhaps thatís why Fripp pulled him into Crimson in parallel with Gavin.

March 23rd
:: Posted by snkzato1 on March 24, 2014

While I may not totally disagree with the opinion of Record Mirror on Three of a Perfect Pair (definitely not my favorite Crimson album by any stretch) Rolling Stone was clueless about the power of Larkís.

While perhaps not influential in its own time the inspiration it provided is massive as we look to modern bands such as The Mars Volta, Tera Melos, Hella, and Omar Rodriguez-Lopez. I can only imagine how terrified the reviewer was when lofty jazz segues didnít great him and instead the concussion inducing power of John Whettonís bass came out of his speakers.

I think it is safe to say that Larkís is not something everyone can enjoy. It is abrasive and challenging, but to call that bad music is a joke. By that logic The Rite of Spring is bad as well!

23rd March
:: Posted by Festus on March 24, 2014

Rolling Stone said: "You canít dance to it, canít keep a beat to it, and it doesnít even make good background music for washing the dishes." 
I say: I donít want to dance to any of it - I want to sit still with headphones on and ABSORB, no beat means you have to listen intently and I would never consider washing the dishes to music like that anyway.

Record Mirror said:  "I havenít heard such a dreadful din since I tripped up over the cat last week and fell downstairs. I hate King Crimson almost as much as I hate their fellow old bores Pink Floyd."
I say: What sort of person trips up over the cat and falls down stairs? someone in an íaltered stateí maybe? someone who doesnít look where their going? - idiot. And what about the poor cat? did you take it to the vets?
Pink Floyd? boring? - I would suggest the reviewer has no attention span and canít contemplate anything beyond 3 minutes in a 4/4 beat.
Maybe the reviewer is a toddler.

Time for More P3
:: Posted by mflaherty on March 24, 2014

I was very excited to see the news on ProjeKct 3 today. I thought we were finally going to get that 22 March show. In disappointment I soon realized that was not the case.

What those who purchase the currently available shows will discover is a frustrating gap between the 21st and 23rd. This is no mere collectorís want for completion: the difference between these performances is great. What happened the night in between should be heard.

It has been years now since P1, P4, P6, and Slow Music have had their entire works released, and while the more prolific P2 has not reached that landmark they have a good number of performances available. Therefore, I appeal to Mr. Stormy and all at DGM to finally make the 22 March show available (and Iím sure many of my friends here would like the 25 March show, released on CD, as a download).

ProjeKct 3 is no less deserving than the others.

Michael Flaherty

:: Posted by tim7777 on March 23, 2014

If you are indeed black then im quite sure your  up on what miles davis had to say about white players and black players .I only mentioned my color because another chap wrote something about bill rifflins playing being in the vain of a black player.what are  you  in your    twentys.I know white players who never even heard of gavin or the band pptree.I had never even heard of  gavin  till king crimson.And name calling brother man is for kids.Blessings.

Tim...? Black and white playing
:: Posted by emory0 on March 23, 2014

Tim7777 wrote...

".Im also black"

Iím dubious, because you write like a white stoner.

But IF you are black, then I would respond by saying that (like many but not all Crimson players) Gavinís drumming is usually fairly "white" but donít mistake that for being clinical. At least, when I saw GH with Porcupine Tree he wasnít even remotely clinical. Indeed, he reminded me a bit of a whiter-playing (from a time perspective) Omar Hakkim. He was really amazing: Sparks flying everywhere. It was almost overwhelming.

In terms of "black" timing, Levin I think is the blackest player, but Bruford had some black to his playing too. Fripp, of course, is a very white player (from a timing perspective) but of course no one would mistake that for lack of passion or being clinical (actually, on older records you can hear Fripp playing with more black timing, but now Iíd say that his playing references black timing by virtue of it almost avoiding a black sense of time in some cases.

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