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:: Posted by abhitaranath on May 09, 2008

I couldn't have said it better myself.

Thank you for saying what was probably on the minds of many of us.

cheers,
Abhi
Keswick 8/11

A New Crim Classification System
:: Posted by thestaz on May 09, 2008

This may not be an origional idea, but I think it would be easier to refer to the various incarnations of King Crimson by the animals that most appropriately apply to the particular line-up.

Capricorn Crimson-Crimson 1 or ’69
Lizard Crimson-Crimson 2 or ’71
Lark Crimson-Crimson 3 or ’73
Elephant Crimson-Crimson 4 or ’81
Dinosaur Crimson-Crimson 5 or ’94
Thrush Crimson-Crimson 6 or ’00
????????-Crimson 7????

We’ll have to see what the new line-up brings!
Thrush Crimson? Ouch that sounds really sore!
Sid

Diaries About Trips to Sea Side Cottages
:: Posted by Edisciple on May 09, 2008

An 18 year old can’t talk to a soon to be 62 year old like that, man. Or the world must be upside down then. You don’t talk to Fripp like that. Robbie Williams did better than that in the quote of the blog linked in the "News" section.

No Fripp diaries, no part of the food for our thought, for those of us who think before posting or opening our mouths. Fripp is not accountable to any of us in that manner. He proved himself long ago and doesn’t have to prove himself to any of us.

King Crimson has now been an intercontinental band for a long time and the logistics of touring or working on an album have long and often been addressed. Good enough they tour this summer as they are, and none of us are getting any younger.

Recently, both Fripp and his wife went through accidents at about the same time, thousands of miles away in between. The next weekend after the upcoming one is a triple celebratory one for the two of them. Let’s not ruin it like this.

Yeah &
:: Posted by FormalPistol on May 08, 2008

>::posted by Edisciple  

>The Looper Isn’t a Hooker" - title of track 3 of 4 from Klaus Schulze’s "Dig It" 1980 album :)"

What about the title track "Dreams" from the 2005 Re-release... Cuts out sharp right at that 9.25 mark preceding of course  "Colors in the Darkness" from Inter*face which cuts out nearly almost about 13 seconds short of where "Dreams" does. They’re such a random effect! Huh Edo?

Need more Crims
:: Posted by Mikhail664 on May 08, 2008

 I dont want to be rude or anything but ROBERT FRIPP stop writng diarys about your trips to sea side cottages and gather the boys and write a KC album, its been 5 years. The world needs more crims. I even read in a recent interview with Adrian Belew that he is ready to write a new album but is just waitng for Mr Fripps signal. I need it, the fans need it, the world needs another album. And a monster tour too, it would be a shame if power to believe was the last as it was such an awesoem album that even rivaled the likes Discipline and Starless, a modern Larks if you will.

February 1973 scans
:: Posted by octopus92 on May 08, 2008

4ve just seen that newspapers extracts from the Marquee February 1973 concerts indicate that the shows would be recorded or filmed...

Is it true and DGM is now in possession of these tapes ?

I’m waiting for an official Spring show from 1973 till a decade....

The Looper
:: Posted by Edisciple on May 08, 2008

"The Looper Isn’t a Hooker" - title of track 3 of 4 from Klaus Schulze’s "Dig It" 1980 album :)

back in the loop
:: Posted by Mechkov on May 08, 2008

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out of the loop
:: Posted by ErrolHTout on May 08, 2008

In response to Mechkov

You asked about a number of things; [1] squillions have tried this [2] yes again - lots [3] ’guitar loops’ is a term I have heard before - why not make up your own term in line with what you are attempting to achieve with said loops? ie make it your own [4] I believe the technique was invented by Terry Riley, introduced to RF by Eno and then changed from 2 X Revox reel to reels to 2 X TC Electronic digtal delays as suggested by David Sylvian. RF has never claimed that he invented it, despite some ill informed claims to the contrary.

The technique is not copyrighted and you are, as far as I am aware, not stealing anything - if that is your concern. Make it your own and best wishes for your work. Put in MySpace etc and let us all know as I am sure plenty of us would lave to hear it [and buy it of course]

Best wishes to all

Errol H. Tout

Being Fripp
:: Posted by MartinLennon on May 07, 2008

Hi Mechkov,

I think most people just call them loops, while the perpetrators are generally known as loopers. They even have a website

I’d say the term soundscape is fairly generic. It’s simply a word used to describe an aural ’landscape’, whatever the source of sound. It’s used by people in a variety of contexts, not just specifically in relation to RF.

Frippertronics would be a different matter, since the term was coined by, (albeit in jest, I believe) and relates very clearly to, its namesake. Attempting to perform actual existing Frippertronics would be on an altogether higher level of different matter. That would certainly require permission. On the other hand, in order to play Frippertronics, the absolute first requirement would be - being Fripp.

I believe the term Frippertronics refers specifically to the loops RF created using two Revox open-reel tape machines, the ’Frippelboard’ of effects and usually his black Les Paul. Although others were created using the Electro-Harmonix Fripp-In-A-Box DDL, guitar synths and possibly a few other toys, the principal method originally involved the Revoxes. Fripp himself had this to say.

I think the first publicly released Soundscape (certainly the first publicly referred to with that term) was Bringing Down The Light, on the Fripp/Sylvian album The First Day, using hi-end digital processing. Someone somewhere has created a webpage detailing all of the soundscape equipment, but I can neither find it, nor remember where it is. Perhaps someone else...?

I’ve created several myself (mine tend to be more rhythmically based) and have even used ’applied’ soundscapes or loops, running quietly in the background of more conventional songs. The principle itself is no more patented than circular breathing. I’ve performed them live several times in a variety of environments to equally varying response, but haven’t attempted to sell any of my recordings yet. If anyone asks what (the hell) I’m doing, I mention Fripp and Eno as an inspiration, but there were others experimenting and playing with loops at the same time, though not with the Revoxes. John Martyn, for one, played through an echoplex with astounding results.

Just my thrupence worth. Hope it helps/clarifies/is of interest.

M

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